Serpenteye said:
ooc: Could someone please copy-paste the posts on the Bugboards here. For some reason I'm unable to register on the boards. I get a message saying that I'm already registered and when I request that they send me the account-information again I get nothing. I could always register to another e-mail adress but it's so much work too set it all up.
-----
.
[sblock]William Ronald
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Al'Akbar, after leaving Rel Mord, returns to Ekbir. The clergy of main faiths, including priests of Moradin, Garl Glittergold, Yondalla, Heironeous, Pelor, Saint Cuthbert, Wee Jas, Lendor and many others ask to meet with the demigod. Their common concerns are why have Oerth and all of Greyspace has been isolated from the rest of the multiverse and why have they lost contact with their gods.
"I do not know what has happened on the other planes. I believe the gods set up the barrier around Greyspace to protect us from invasion from those forces attacking the planes. It is my hope that one day you shall all hear from your gods."
"Until such time, I am granting spells to those whose philosophical outlooks parallel those of my own clergy. I do this to honor your deities. I have high regard for them and their teachings. I will not require any priest to convert to my worship. However, if any chose to worship me, let them do so out of free will. I have welcomed people of many lands and many races to my faith and my clergy."
"Let me say a few words on behalf of some of your gods. Heironeous is brave, as is his brother Hextor. Perhaps as we speak, the fight side by side against those who would threaten our world. The courage, compassion, and wisdom of the dwarven gods led by Moradin, the gnomish pantheon led by Garl Glittergold, and the halfling gods led by Yondalla are reknowned. I respect the Suel deities Lendor, Wee Jas, and many others. Indeed, they have temples in the lands of my allies, the League of Athyr and Greater Nyrond."
"In this time of crises, I believe that all those of good will should stand together. Indeed, all Oerth and Greyspace should stand against the Whispered One and others who would bring us to ruin. My mullahs and qadis will treat the clergy of all neutral and good clergy as allies. Similarly, we will treat the worshippers of those neutral and good deities who are not present on Oerth or Greyspace with respect and friendship."
"The only exception I make to my gift is that of the Hopping Prophet. (OOC: Wastri.) While I respect the intelligent amphibian races, I disagree with the Hopping Prophets declaration that elves, dwarves, halflings, and gnomes should be exterminated while orcs, bullywugs, and goblins exist only to be slaves. I have no use for bigotry."
"Instead, I think that all the peoples of Oerth and Greyspace should work together. What should matter is the content of one's character, not one's race, gender, nation, or culture. I am honored to have priests of many human cultures, as well as those of other races. In my view, those societies that have worked to include people of many races as full members, such as Orcreich and the Khanates or the Malkuvah Baklunim, the Baklunish Empire, have benefitted from the diverse views and skills of their citizens."
(OOC: Uvenelei, you said the stars were gone. However, Oerth and Greyspace operate under a Ptolemaic solar system model. So, the stars are actually inside the shell at the edge of the Crystal Sphere. Or at least some of them are. Also, if we had s-blocks I would have put a description of Al'Akbar's religion in it as I did in the OOC thread.)
Paxus Asclepius
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OOC: Does this gift extend to clerics in nations other than that of the Baklunish? Does it cover LN clerics of LE deities (such as Hextor)?
William Ronald
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Al'Akbar continues his dialogue with the drow and the elven peoples.
"In the future, I believe we have many perils and opportunities. There is the risk that nation will war against nation, while our common foes plot against us. This is folly, as these foes could take advantage of these wars for their benefit and our ruin."
"However, there is much to be said for understanding and cooperation. I promised Vesharess Eclavdra when I first returned to Oerth that I would stand with her against those who would bring ruin upon all. Furthermore, I promised Eclavdra that I would ensure that even if the drow were overcome, I would ensure that at least some of her people would survive."
"While there are many with whom I disagree on important issues, I can still respect their abilities. We can build a better future, one that honors the sacrifices of our forebears and is held in trust for our posterity. There are many who have fought side by side, and many who will fight side by side for the first time in defense of what they love."
"There are great changes occuring in our time. The changes that the drow are going though is but one of them. The drow are rediscovering a part of their nature they forgot. To aid them in this change, I will show them and you some of the things they have forgotten as I first experienced them."
The drow and others see, in a way that does not hurt their vision, the beauty of the heavens. "These are the stars of Greyspace, at the outermost limit of the Crystal Sphere."
The drow see an overview of Greyspace from the edge of the Crystal Sphere. "These are the worlds of Greyspace, of which you can learn more. Many are places of great beauty and wonder, home to life and civilizations."
Next, the drow see the image of the moons Luna and Celene in their beauty. "These are the moons of Oerth. The large moon is Luna and the smaller moon is Celene."
Next, the drow and others see a mostly round globe. It has blue seas, land masses with the colors of forests, deserts, and plains. The world's ice caps can be seen by those watching the scene, as can the clouds above the surface of the world. "Behold Oerth as seen from a distance. Our beautiful world, home to many diverse peoples and cultures, is shown in its true beauty."
The drow and others also see some of the beautiful sights of Oerth, from waterfalls, to coastlines, to the stark beauty of the deserts to the verdant wonders of the jungles and forests. They also see the city of Ekbir, where people of many races are engaged in trade, commerce, and in living as a community.
"We must ensure that the beauty and wonder of Oerth and all of Greyspace is preserved. Life is precious, found in a variety of forms that can amaze even the keenest intellect. I believe that all sentience is akin in a great family of Being. All of us are voices in a chorus, unique and valuable but capable of so much more in convert with others."
"You are loved by many, who have risked much for you. You should remember that your lives have value in and of themselves. Though you have faced great losses, you can only begin to guess at your true potential for strength and goodness. Some of you have never experienced love or forgivenes. There are many kinds of love."
For the first time, the drow sense the type of love that elven children have for their parents.
They sense the love of elven siblings for each other, the passion of youth, the devotion of a married couple, the love of parents for children, and the love of the individual for the community and the love of the community for the individual.
"Many other races have similar feelings. Although there are differences between races and cultures, I believe what unites us is ultimately more important and powerful than what divides us. When societies isolate themselves from others, they seem to inevitably suffer. However, those cultures that work with others, and have learned to even accept members of other races into their society. In the Baklunish Empire, people of many races have long been fully accepted as citizens in society. Ultimately, the best standard to judge others on is the content of their character. Goodness and compassion are found in many cultures, many philosophies, many shapes and many forms. Remember that you are loved and are not alone. I believe that all peoples can build a future worthy of our true potential as sentient beings. Reach out for the hand of friendship, and step into the Light of a new dawn."
For the first time, the drow see the sun rising out of the sea, bringing light to a darkened land.
Kalanyr
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OOC - Clarification, Morwel already stated she would extend her aid to any clerics of appropriate alignment who wish it (CG,CN,NG) (no strings attached). . However acts she cannot approve of (evil or lawful) will result in the revocation of access. [/sblock]
[sblock]
Yarudazuigu
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Serpenteye:As Eclavdra writhes in pain great bolts of pure and uncontrolled energy strike at random around her from the artifact she wears. The carefully placed spells and wards around the city cannot withstand this onslaught from within. They unravel, like a burning web, and the city is open.
Iuz, already present in the city, is the first one to act.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This Scrying should be enough to remove all doubts. My lord removed Regalia from convulsing queen Eclavdra before she made more damage to her City.
*Imp, representing Iuz, only grinned overhearing lies spoken by Brotherhood leader.*
Criminal is alive, Brother Abbon, and undergoes rightful punishment for crimes against innocent citizens of Empire. His attempt at sucidal escape from the grasp of Justice was futile. And I propose us to work under Detect Lies spell from now on, to avoid other such ... mistakes.
OOC:
Bugger, Rikandur here. I don't know why Quotation didn't worked. Well see reasons of Iuz's removal of Artifact from Eclavdra. And she is only person who should judge if she holds Iuz guilty for removal of her Regalia. Not Brotherhood.
Paxus Asclepius
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"A cunning argument. I suppose, then, that you donned the Regalia as a similar protective measure? And likewise, that you feared Eclavdra's health so dire that you not only took no actions to aid her, nor called anyone to do so where you would not, but actively attacked the first individual on the scene to attempt to heal her?"
RiotGearEpsilon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rary firmly intones, "The Summit has not yet mounted."
Yarudazuigu
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OOC:
Iuz isn't present. Besides ... look on the things from CE perspective. Attack on one "responsible" for bad condition of ally is help. CE creatures aren't as planning and scheming as LE, including Wolf God, and ... his clerics might loose favor of Iuz.
I remind, that Iuz is represented here by Imp, lawyer perhaps, who casted this "video record", from a ring/ wand/ globe/ whatever.
IC:
*Imp gazed at Wolf God and cleared his throat, before speaking in neutral tone, visibly coloured with fear directed towards dangerous Barghest.*
First, I'm willing to apologise our host.
*Imp bowed to Rary.*
Then I, humble representative, will respond to Your questioning ... Wolf God. Motives behind actions of my liege are apparent to all who will look on whole situation. And repeat Your questions when it will be right time, than You and all interested will recive their anservs.
Abayo
Yarudazuigu
Edited by: Yarudazuigu at: 1/20/05 3:26 am
RiotGearEpsilon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rary claps, and the light becomes more even, more vivid, in the room around us.
"The summit has now begun."
"Our first order of business: voting procedures. Are there any objections to the voting procedures put forth by the Miranda Alliance? The Triumvirate Rebellious has none."
Paxus Asclepius
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Nor do I," rumbles the Wolf God.
Kooligar
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Gallador`s Concord agrees to those voting rules"- Exclaims Princess Lanfear.
OOC: I am Melkor.
Ashardalon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"No objections from Aerdi."
What surpasses Ashardalon, is more despicable than the great wyrm?
Phibrizz0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"No objections from Lynn." The gray-robed Mercane responds.
Uvenelei
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I have no objections," states the Tempest.
Guilt Puppy
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Brotherhood also accepts the proposed voting rules.
ZuneV
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ogrim Scarseer states clearly "No objections from Orcreich".
RiotGearEpsilon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Alright, that's 8 out of 12. Under the new voting rules, or under any other voting rules currently in existence on Oerth, that's enough for a decision whatever votes the others cast.
Here are the voting rules:
2/3 Majority to pass a motion. Any who fail to attend do not count, any who choose to abstain form voting do not count. (This prevents a tie and prevents political finagling). If the vote is for a member's expulsion that member may not vote.
This means that any expulsion votes need to come first. A vote to waive a counterstrike also requires a 2/3 majority (likewise if a member is the subject of the counterstrike he may not vote).
Any motions that alter an existing part of the TEC (except as noted above re expulsion and counter strikes) require unanimous approval of all members. Additions to the TEC require only the 2/3 majority.
Addendum: At this meeting and this meeting only the TEC is subject to change by 2/3 majority, simply because it seems ,we agree, the terms are unclear. Once they have been agreed upon they will go to the unanimous approval for all further meetings.
=======
Now, the esteemed King Rhynnon has put forth this tentative agenda:
Day One
-Introductions and opening speeches
-The Means of Consensus (to determine the means of voting among members)
-The Iuz Question (to determine the status of Iuz)
-The Gallidor Question (to determine the status of Gallidor)
-The Elder Brother Question (to determine the status of the Brotherhood)
-The Eclavdor Question (to determine the status of The Empire of Eclavdor)
-The Allidor Question (to determine the status of Allidor)
Day Two
-Trials for any parties found in violation of the proposed charter (Where those found in violation of the Pact are judged)
-Reading of proposed Charter (A reading of the current Pact charter)
-Proposals to amend the Proposed charter (Where any member in good standing may propose changes to the charter)
-Votes to amend the Proposed Charter (A general vote on each proposed change)
-Reading of the Amended Charter (Once all changes have been voted on, the Amended charter will then be read)
Day Three:
-Trials continued (if necessary) and judgments carried out
-Closing Statements
-Official Signing Ceremony
Obviously, we have already established the means of consensus. I vote in favor of this agenda, what say you?
Kalanyr
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Faerinaal confers with the rest of the representatives from the Miranda Alliance and then nods.
"We agree to both."
Bugbear
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Greater Nyrond Votes in favor of the Agenda put forth by Great Nyrond
Edited by: Bugbear at: 1/21/05 11:10 pm
Yarudazuigu
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Imp representative simply nodded.*
Abayo
Yarudazuigu
Guilt Puppy
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Scarlet Brotherhood approves of this agenda.
Edena
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eclavdra stands with quiet dignity, dressed in robes of white and silver, coronet of the Queenship of Eclavdor on her head. She holds the Queens' Wand (an honorary item only) in her right hand. (Under my alignment system, Eclavdra is neutral good now.)
Eclavdra looks around at the great assemblage of powers, at the deities and lords and ladies, at the vast chamber with implications far more vast yet, with a solemn, serious, and contemplative gaze.
There is quiet respect and a somber acknowledgement of the deadly seriousness of these proceedings in this (apparently) very young lady.
Eclavdra curtsies deeply to the whole assemblage, inclining her head, eyes lowered. Her hair, held back, falls about her shoulders and down to her waist.
Then she speaks in her quiet, soft spoken way, affirming the Miranda Voting Rules, then reseats herself.
The Lord of the Yuan-Ti, here on an honorary basis, nods respectfully and cautiously to the whole assemblage, then reseats himself. He does not speak or vote, having reacknowledged Eclavdras' authority. (Under my alignment system, the Lord is neutral evil.)
The King of the Ice Elves, also here on an honorary basis, stands and bows to the assemblage, then reseats himself. Again, he does not speak or vote, maintaining his original recognition of Eclavdras' status within the TEC Pact. (Under my alignment system, the King is lawful evil.)
-
The Speaker of the Dark Drow stands.
Lady Shadow, a young woman like Eclavdra, wears no regalia of rulership, but she wears a striking cloak of purple and black, the classic black adamantite armor of the drow, and carries a pennant of purple upon which no emblem is present.
Puzzlingly, no symbol of Lolth is present upon this woman. Apparently, this drow does not recognize Lolth. She radiates a red aura of great evil for those who can see it (Under my alignment system, Lady Shadow is chaotic evil, and she is evil to a profound degree.)
She nods to the assemblage - out of custom and etiquette - then quietly states the Drow agree to the Miranda Voting Rules.
-
Lady Gwyndilyn of Aliador is here to represent Aliador and Ratik (I claimed Ratik today for Thomas' power, since Ratik has been unclaimed, and Serpenteye agreed. Upon his agreement, I had Ratik immediately sign the TEC Pact.)
Lady Gwyndilyn is a Nymph, and as a Nymph has the otherworldly, ethereal beauty and allure of those beings. She has majesty and a noble bearing to match her beauty.
She is dressed in soft, silken robes of blue and white, wearing a coronet and carrying the Scepter of Aliador (honorary item.)
Her inner power is hushed, so looking at her is safe, but a great aura of power and white and silver radiance is yet around her, dim but perceptable.
Lady Gwyndilyn looks around at the assemblage, appreciating just what this meeting means, appreciating in no uncertain terms what is at stake here.
She curtsies and inclines her head, in humility it almost seems, to all present.
She softly, in a lilting soprano voice, affirms the Miranda Voting System, then reseats herself. (Under my alignment system, Lady Gwyndilyn is lawful good.)
The Lord of Ratik, here on an honorary basis, stands and bows deeply to the whole assemblage, and speaks a few words of respect and honor to those present, and gratitude for being allowed to be here. Then he reseats himself. (Under my alignment system, the Lord is lawful good.)
In addition to Ratiks' colors, the Lord wears Aliadors' colors.
Ratik has acknowledged Aliadors' Overlordship over it, indefinitely. Ratik is now a part of Aliador (both Lady Gwyndilyn and the Lord of Ratik will affirm this.)
Edited by: Edena at: 1/22/05 1:57 am
Edena
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Queen Eclavdra agrees to the procedural order as laid out by King Rhynnon.
Lady Gwyndilyn agrees to the procedural order as laid out by King Rhynnon.
The Lord of the Yuan-Ti, and King of the Ice Elves are quiet, as it is not their place to speak.
The Lord of Ratik is also silent, as it is also not his place to speak.
Lady Shadow of the Dark Drow agrees to the procedural order as laid out by King Rhynnon, ignoring Eclavdra and speaking as if Eclavdra did not exist.
Phibrizz0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The mercane draped in gray would gladly agree to the procedural matters except with a single addendum, that the Eclavdor question be moved up due to his interpretation of the TEC Pact that between Queen Eclavdra and Lady Shadow there should only reside one vote, and that giving them two for even one case would be too much.
-Sollir
Edena
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Both Eclavdra and Lady Shadow agree with the Mercanes' motion of addendum.
Both move that the Procedural Matter begin with the removal of the other person from this Summit.
Each claims to represent Eclavdor. Eclavdra, and Lady Shadow.
Both women are rather quiet about the matter, simply and quietly stating the other has no right to be present.
Yarudazuigu
Prince
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Imp gazed at both Eclavdra, seemingly different from woman described by Lord Iuz, and Lady Shadow. He spoke first to Lady Shadow. (In Edena's aligment system Imp is lawful evil, and radiates strong aura ... purple, perhaps. )
"Lady Shadow, lack of slave-symbols of Llolth warms heart of my Liege and Master, God-Tzar Iuz. Empire hopes that our future relationships will be as fruitfull and amicable as were ... before disaster, that struck Drow people. I repeat offer of Empire of Iuz, every persecuted for their philosophy person, could emigrate to Empire. Freedom of opinions, excluding religious matters, was our pride from long time."
Then little deviling gazed at Eclavdra with pity. And spoke gently to her. This time with neutral expression.
"Empire is struck that founder of TEC Pact was hurt by Withdrawal. And God-Tzar sends his personal condolences to You, m'lady. He regrets that his help was futile ... And reminds that he gave Your Regalia to King of Nyrondy, in deposit, for You to take it whenever You please. he would give back it to You in person, but ufortunately is busy with war against Selitisia, arch servant of enemy against who TEC Pact was founded by Velsharess Eclavdra, not so long ago."
Then Eclavdra reckognised gray, but of good quality, clothes of Imp. And symbol enblazoned on his forehead. he's one of Untouchables, personal slaves of Iuz. Nobody can touch them, under gravest punishments that Iuz in person is capable of dealing. And these slaves are only people in Empire who walk unarmed and without fear almost everywhere.
OOC:
After the conference, Imp will approach Eclavdor delegation with simple proposal. May true Black Elves remain themselves, those who choosed Light should return wholly to their elvish roots. Iuz proposes Miracle, to change pigmentation of all "Good Drow", white skin, ebon hair. Photo negative. Then Lady Shadow would represent Black Elves, becaust without Llolth they aren't Drow anymore, and Queen Eclavdra will represent majority. And will name her people as she pleases.
Abayo
Yarudazuigu
Paxus Asclepius
.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Wolf God agrees to the suggestion that the matter of the vote of Eclavdor be dealt with before the matter of Iuz, and concurs that the order of business is otherwise acceptable.
Edena
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eclavdra has no reply to the Imp, the Speaker of the Empire of Iuz, since she agreed to the procedurial matter of doing things as set down by King Rhynnon, she appreciates etiquette, she isn't about to insult the entire assemblage by speaking out of turn, and she has a grave appreciation of just how serious the situation is here.
However, Lady Shadow does speak. Just for a moment. And what she has to say, says much indeed.
Her voice is soft also, like Eclavdras' voice, but it is not pleasant: it is filled with a strange glee, and hearing it makes one think of knives, and parting flesh under those knives, and gushing blood. And the screams of victims as they are being slowly grilled over a slow fire, and the sound of flames burning away home and field.
'I cannot accept any offers from the Empire of Iuz, Ambassador.'
'The Empire of Iuz cannot offer me anything when it has been reduced to a heap of ash and charred bodies, and Iuz hangs from a gibbet.'
'That fate hangs over Iuz and all his subjects. Or why do you think this Assemblage is gathered?'
Lady Shadow smiles, from within her purple and black cloak, and continues:
'However, Ambassador, I have full faith in your capabilities. I am certain you will prove the innocence of Iuz to this Assemblage.'
Then the Lady Shadow sits back and says nothing more ...
Edited by: Edena at: 1/22/05 4:59 am
Edena
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Normally, I'd keep Lady Shadow here, and use her for a plot device. However, everyone wants to get on the with the Summit, I don't blame them, and I'm in Quiet Mode anyways. So I'm going to have Lady Shadow say a few things, then leave the Summit.)
Lady Shadow stands, and regards the assemblage:
'I realize that you will choose Eclavdra over me as representative of the Drow of Eclavdor.'
'So be it. It is too late anyways.'
Lady Shadow turns and looks at Eclavdra, and her face twists in a sneer, then a look of absolute contempt, then finally a look of murderous hate and rage comes over her fair features:
'It doesn't work like that, fool.'
'Do you believe you can just wake up from the Bad Dream?'
'Do you believe you can wallow in the Darkness, and then just turn your back on it? And that everything will be ok?'
'WHO do you think you ARE, to choose the fate of the Drow?'
'WHO do you think you ARE, to FORCE your people to change who they are, to your whim?'
'In your pride and your arrogance, you have turned from Lolths' paradise, and doomed yourself and your people to her fury and the fire!'
'The drow will curse your name for all eternity. You are the Betrayer of your people! Forever, the Betrayer!'
'YOU are not even worthy of Lolths' fire. You are not even worthy of that!'
And with that, Lady Shadow whispers to her magic, and disappears from the TEC Summit.
Eclavdra just sits there, looking kind of stunned.
The Lord of the Yuan-Ti and King of the Ice Elves are keeping carefully blank faces. They sit there motionless, faces empty of expression, like statues.
Lady Gwyndilyn of Aliador looks solemn and aggrieved, but the Lord of Ratik is quietly angry.
(The TEC Summit can now continue in peace. Eclavdra represents Eclavdor, Gwyndilyn represents Aliador, and the others are honorary guests. Back to the business at hand.)
(Lady Shadow is easily chased down, found, and killed, if any of you wish to have your people do this IC. She's only a drow wizard/cleric of moderate level, so she is easily caught and dealt with.)
Edited by: Edena at: 1/22/05 6:19 am
Bugbear
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
First I would like to welcome lady Eclavdra, whom I have been told has recovered from her madness, to this conference. None of this would be happening if it were not for her efforts, in fact we would all very likely be at war with one another. May this day always be remembered.
(King Rhynnon bows his head to Eclavdra and then continues)
As for the Question raised by the Honorable Mercane, Greater Nyrond has no objection to this change of agenda. Despite Lady Shadow's outburst, the matter of who controls the Empire of Eclavdor must be settled. I vote Aye.
Edited by: Bugbear at: 1/22/05 9:06 am
Yarudazuigu
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Imp only frowned upon hearing Lady's Shadow statement and prayed quietly for mercy on her. Then turned to King of Nyrond.
"Empire of Iuz belives, that Eclavdor have it's ruler ... Founder of TEC Pact. In Drow society change of ruler is ... unquestionably visible. And usually permament. Maybe You should return Queen ... Eclavdra Her Regalia to dispel any doubts. Chm ?"
Imp stopped for moment, as if contemplating something, and resumed his speech with renewed vigor.
"I'm allowed to represent my liege as he have more important matters, vital to further existence of TEC Pact, at hand ... forgive me, but I will repeat his words. More important cases than meaningless bureaucracy ! I propose continuing with the shedule, lady Eclavdra lives, so she owns Eclavdor. That is Drow right."
OOC: Cool title, Bugbear. But Iuz lies not as often to be called Price of Lies. And for curious people peeking at Imp, he have ethereal crowd of devil lawyers and speech designers advising him.
Abayo
Yarudazuigu
Uvenelei
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I agree with the proposed change to the schedule," the Tempest says.
edit: I believe my vote makes it 8 out of 12 for accepting the first schedule, and 5 votes for accepting the revision.
Edited by: Uvenelei at: 1/22/05 10:15 am
RiotGearEpsilon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I also agree to this change in agenda, and for the moment, barring objection, will offer my vote on the matter.
===
Eli Tomorast rises, speaking for the Triumvirate, his hands cloaked in the great sleeves of his robes. "The Dark Drow," he says gravely, "Are no laughing matter. All of us recall the predations of the drow in the dark times before Lady Eclavdra stepped in to enforce some semblance of order upon their society - the raids upon our populace, their ravage upon the underdark. The Dark Drow are far more monstrous than they."
"My servitors did give succor to those drow driven from the dark by Iuz's demons and Melkor's vampires, though I freely admit that, upon doing so, we did send our agents to their abandoned cities to claim the wealth there as our own."
He shakes his head mournfully. "Sadly, our choice of servitors was perhaps... ill-advised." He shoots a glance to Rary, who merely raises an eyebrow, before returning his attention to the congregation. "The Drow we rescued did not become Mordheil, but instead, Dark Drow. Their madness, malevolence, and depravity killed over a quarter of them as they established a pecking order amongst themselves using what weapons they had - we killed the rest out of horror, for which I must apologize to Lady Shadow (in absentia) and Eclavdra, as it was perhaps unnecessary, and offer recompense of her choosing."
"Because of this, because of what the Dark Drow ARE, I must recommend that full sovereignty over their nation be granted to Eclavdra, and that, if it becomes necessary to preserve the public order, Lady Shadow be restrained and possibly executed."
"I vote that Eclavdra rule the drow."
He then coughs politely. "Also, Rhynnon should return her Regalia, when her title is returned to her."
Edited by: RiotGearEpsilon at: 1/22/05 10:30 am
Paxus Asclepius
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"With the absence of any rival, Eclavdra's power is hers to claim freely. Neither the yuan-ti nor the Ice Elves have claimed voting power, and the Lady of Shadows has renounced any claim she might have. The matter appears settled, so there is no need for any revision."
Ashardalon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"The Dark Drow have a point. From a temperamental point of view, they may be viewed as the legitimate heirs of the old drow. Yet, with Eclavdra alive, and having chosen the other path willingly, she is the natural choice to represent the drow."
And while I have not been to the Spiderweb Pits, I don't think there is much fire there...
What surpasses Ashardalon, is more despicable than the great wyrm?
Kooligar
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The beautiful face of Princess Lanfear is twisted in rage when Lady Shadow leaves, it takes few seconds for her to regain composure:
"It seems Evlavdra doesn`t even have support of her own people! And do the Lord of Yuan-Ti, and ambassador of Ice Elves agree to be represented by someone with completely diffrent views and beliefs?!"
Kooligar
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"And I propose adding the subject of my father`s war against Vecna`s followers on GIbenei to the agenda. Or have you all forgotten about Vecna!?"
Edited by: Kooligar at: 1/22/05 1:39 pm
Paxus Asclepius
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Eclavdra's internal affairs are precisely that: internal. Nowhere in the pact that she wrote does it provide authority for us to interfere in them, or indeed reason to desire to do so. As to your father's war, it is not an issue for the Treaty. Had he been attacked, yes; but wars of aggression are not covered by the Treaty.
Kooligar
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Wasn`t one of the main purposes of this Treaty to oppose Vecna? Well, he is awakening, but it seems it is the least of your concerns."
RiotGearEpsilon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Assuming we do not have at least 5 objections to this agenda, this is what we'll go with:
Day One
-Introductions and opening speeches (skipped for now)
-The Means of Consensus (to determine the means of voting among members) (X)
-The Eclavdor Question (to determine the status of The Empire of Eclavdor) (In process)
-The Iuz Question (to determine the status of Iuz)
-The Gallidor Question (to determine the status of Gallidor)
-The Gibenei Question (to determine the duties of the pact in regards to the deadworld of Gibenei)
-The Elder Brother Question (to determine the status of the Brotherhood)
-The Allidor Question (to determine the status of Allidor)
Day Two
-Trials for any parties found in violation of the proposed charter (Where those found in violation of the Pact are judged)
-Reading of proposed Charter (A reading of the current Pact charter)
-Proposals to amend the Proposed charter (Where any member in good standing may propose changes to the charter)
-Votes to amend the Proposed Charter (A general vote on each proposed change)
-Reading of the Amended Charter (Once all changes have been voted on, the Amended charter will then be read)
Day Three:
-Trials continued (if necessary) and judgments carried out
-Closing Statements
-Official Signing Ceremony
Guilt Puppy
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Scarlet Brotherhood wholly supports adding the Gibenei Wars to the agenda. Regardless of the Concord's status in the Pact, which remains to be decided, the early weakening of Vecna's forces is clearly in the interest of the Pact as a whole.
Ashardalon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I have not forgotten about Vecna, Princess Lanfear, but at the moment, he is the least of our concerns.
At the moment, we cannot confront the Whispered One. We would be a random bunch that assaults some place without thinking, without planning, without coordination. Where that leads we have seen a week ago, and those events lead to this Summit. If we were to confront the Arch-Lich under these conditions, we might as well commit suicide now, in this room. Underestimating him is an error we should not make.
Aerdi does not support adding the Gibenei Wars to the agenda. The war against the Whispered One deserves more attention than being a quick throw-in. Once we have ironed out the disorganization we are in, we can perform this war more efficiently. I am sure that this would be in Lord Gallador's interest."
What surpasses Ashardalon, is more despicable than the great wyrm?
Paxus Asclepius
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Wolf God likewise opposes the addition of any Gibenei question.
Kooligar
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Princess Lanfear smiles mischievously:
"In this case, I withdraw the Gibenei matters from the agenda! Lord Gallador doesn`t need the whole Pact to bring peace to this world!"
RiotGearEpsilon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"That's three votes against, Princess Lanfear, but the matter is still up for debate. It's possible it will end up on the agenda whether you like it or not."
Bugbear
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Most surprisingly, I find myself in agreement with Ashardollon As things stand now, none of us could stand against the Maimed one should he appear. Greater Nyrond Votes against the Lady Lanfear's proposed addition to the agenda."
RiotGearEpsilon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"In the interest of resolving the situation, I will cast the deciding vote against including the Gibenei situation on the agenda. Thus, we now return to the issue of drow sovereignty."
"The Wolf God, the Triumvirate Rebellious, and Ashardalon have voted that Eclavdra will rule her nation of Eclavdor, what-ever the spiritual and psychological state of her subjects. Gallador has not actually voted in favor of Lady Shadow, but his representative Princess Lanfear has made some pointed arguments in favor of her, which should be recognized."
"Voting on the subject of the Drow Sovereignty will now continue."
Paxus Asclepius
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I will note that this 'Lady of Shadows,' should she choose to do so, and should she actually possess an independent state, may apply to the Council for membership in the Treaty, just as any other nation might. It would, however, be a travesty of unparalleled proportions if the founder of the Treaty were to be denied her rightful position in the council merely as a result of minor internal strife. Eclavdra, and not some nebulous entity named 'the people of the Empire of Eclavdor,' was the original signatory to the Treaty; the territories controlled by a member are in no way relevant to membership or voting power."
Kalanyr
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Given that the status of the greater part of Eclavdra's subjects is currently unknown, I would agree that Eclavdra makes the best representative. If the Ice Elves or the Yuan-ti object to her representation they like Lady Shadow can make a petition to enter the treaty as independent nations. "
Guilt Puppy
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Given that Eclavdra has returned to health, the Brotherhood sees no reason to question whose authority is paramount in the Empire of Eclavdor. However, we do wish to make certain of one thing..."
Addressing Eclavdra directly, Abbon asks a question clearly. "Do you still claim rulership over the whole of the Empire, and most importantly, do you still take full responsibility for its actions? If so, we vote that Eclavdra be recognized as ruler of these territories; if not, we vote that their steward shall be recognized as the leader of the Yuan-Ti."
"Understand, we do not wish to see Eclavdra fall from power in either case. We have some concern, however, about the instability of the Drow Empire, and refuse to see any protections bestowed upon its subjects if there are none to assert accountability for their actions."
Edena
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eclavdra stands, bows her head, and says quietly:
'If the Gathered Assemblage will recognize it, I will assume rulership of Eclavdor. I will take all responsibility for it's actions, and the weight of responsibility that a ruler must bear.'
The King of the Ice Elves stands, and speaks for a moment:
'Our people recognize the pre-existing alliance with Eclavdor. There shall be no change in our status.'
Eclavdra smiles at the King, and reseats herself.
The King does not smile, but nods to Eclavdra and reseats himself.
-
The Lord of the Yuan-Ti Empire then stands, and speaks:
'The interests of my nation, and the interests of the drow, no longer coincide, and I wish to take this moment to sever relations with Eclavdra, and withdraw my nation from Eclavdor.'
'By means of Domination magic was I made into a puppet of Eclavdra, and unwillingly and unknowingly did her bidding, to the detriment and harm of my people.'
'Under the tyranny of Eclavdor were my people murdered, enslaved, their labor going to the greater good of the drow and their creed.'
'No more. Our alliance is ended. I speak for the Yuan-Ti, and we wish no further dealings with the drow, be they Eclavdor drow or Dark Drow.'
'I petition the Assemblage to recognize the Empire of the Yuan-Ti as an independent entity, a sovereign nation of 2 million individuals, accorded the rights and guarantees under the TEC Pact.'
'In particular, I petition the Wolf to accept and endorse the independence of the Yuan-Ti People, and to realize our common interests and our common bonds.'
The Lord of the Yuan-Ti, with dignity, steps away from Eclavdra and the King of the Ice Elves, and walks to a new seat distant from them, which was sitting there anonymously for no apparently reason - now, it is obvious to all why it was put there, and who did so.
The Lord of the Yuan-Ti then seats himself upon this chair, and ceremoniously takes out his own High Staff of Authority (honorary item) proclaiming to all his declaration of independence from the drow.
((Please note that if they are recognized as independent now, on Turn 2 I will bequeath the Yuan-Ti Empire to someone elses' power. It is unclear who at this time.))
Edited by: Edena at: 1/23/05 12:12 am
RiotGearEpsilon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eli states, "If we do not have at least 5 powers refusing to recognize the Yuan Ti as an independent empire by the end of the meeting, then we may presume that the Yuan-Ti have been recognized by this body of nations as a sovereign nation - unprotected by the terms of the pact here under discussion..."
Yarudazuigu
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Interesting discussion, but I woul like to remind everybody that eventual separation of Yuan-Ti empire from Eclavdor, as well as philosophical differences between ex-drow ... I will call these political and philosophical factions, for clarification, Returned-those ex-drow who choosed their ancient elven roots and Black Elves-those ex-drow who choosed their ... usual ways."
Imp paused to look on everybody assembled.
"Empire would like to remind everybody, that these matters are, in fact, internal troubles of Eclavdor and shouldn't be discussed here but left to Eclavdor's ruler to decide. Unless council took mantle of leadership over her Nation from Velsharess Eclavdra ... In wich case, Empire have nothing to say."
Abayo
Yarudazuigu
Paxus Asclepius
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"It is a valid question, as to whether we as a body politic have the right or responsibility to grant what is, in effect, political asylum to an entire nation. As I have been directly appealed to, I must answer, and so I will answer as follows: the question of the Yuan-ti Empire as an independent entity is one which we must discuss, but one which I do not feel we can properly discuss at quite this present time. I would thus ask all concerned, particularly the Velsharess (unless there is another title she wishes to assume), to refrain from any action which might be prejudicial to the ultimate answer of this question, or any action which might unduly impact any of the groups at hand, until such a time as the matter may be addressed with the attention it is due."
Yarudazuigu
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Imp nodded to Wolf God, and smiled slightly toward Velsharess and sat again on his seat in pose that would be full of dignity if not dimunitive posture of deviling.
Abayo
Yarudazuigu
Edena
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Queen Eclavdra nods to the Imp, and to the Assemblage, and speaks for a moment:
'Yes, we must proceed with the Summit. Time is precious.'
Bugbear
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Before any of can address the Lord of the Yaun-Ti's request, I think it is important to hear Eclavdra's view on the matter. Does Eclavdor still claim the Yaun-Ti as it's subjects? Does Eclavdra consider them to by in rebellion against her throne? Or will Eclavdor recognize the independance of a new Yaun-Ti state?"
RiotGearEpsilon
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I, too, am curious as to your decision on this matter, Queen Eclavdra."
Edena
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eclavdra stands, looking unhappy in spite of her efforts to conceal it, and speaks softly:
'I, Queen Eclavdra of Eclavdor, recognize the independence of the Yuan-Ti Empire and the yuan-ti people.'
'I also recognize all the accusations of the Lord of the Yuan-Ti regarding the past behavior of the drow ... and myself.'
With a shudder and a sad look, Eclavdra reseats herself.
[/sblock]