Once you go C&C, you never go back

[der_kluge]

Just read my review of C&C to see what I thought about it. I wish the TLG guys nothing but the best WRT to their game.

It's not for me, though. Like others, I think they took the wrong approach towards the rules - removed stuff that worked (a single XP progression) and overly complicated stuff (SIEGE engine is completely bass-ackwards, IMHO).

 

[Dristram]

And be assured that he considers this along with any reasonably phrased issue brought to his attention. *coughs*.

Heh, any info you can share about what the art will be like for the CKG, or C&C UA?

 

[Dristram]

Just read my review of C&C to see what I thought about it. I wish the TLG guys nothing but the best WRT to their game.

It's not for me, though. Like others, I think they took the wrong approach towards the rules - removed stuff that worked (a single XP progression)

As far as I'm concerned, multiple XP tables seemed to work just fine for AD&D. But that aside, a single XP progression to me has a generic feel. Class-based XP tables to me have a certain charm and add character to the classes. Kind of funny how that came out.

and overly complicated stuff (SIEGE engine is completely bass-ackwards, IMHO).

Are you saying that the SIEGE Engine is overly complicated??

 

[gideon_thorne]

Heh, any info you can share about what the art will be like for the CKG, or C&C UA?

Well, content wise, not yet. But style wise a fair bit more black and white ink work. Mainly since it seems to show up so much better. I have a few things in mind, but I am not fully cognizant enough of the interior contents to devise appropriate pieces.

 

[gideon_thorne]

(I assume you mean the original Trampier cover.) That's another one of my favorites (even more than the Sutherland DMG cover, which is also a classic). If that's what you mean by "action," then I'm in complete agreement that we should see more of this kind of thing. It's a scene which fires the imagination and tells a story (and drips swords-and-sorcery feel, to me).

I actually tend to like Trampier's work on the DM screen much more than the original 1E cover. The figures are much cleaner and more detailed, and there is a real sense of mood and drama that the AD&D book cover doesn't quite capture. All IMHO of course.

 

[Philotomy Jurament]

...I think [the C&C designers] took the wrong approach towards the rules - removed stuff that worked (a single XP progression)...

I take the contrary position on XP progressions (see here for some comments).

 

[Philotomy Jurament]

I actually tend to like Trampier's work on the DM screen much more than the original 1E cover. The figures are much cleaner and more detailed, and there is a real sense of mood and drama that the AD&D book cover doesn't quite capture.

I had a Trampier screen years ago, but it was stolen (along with some other stuff it pained me to lose), and I had to replace it with the later version of the 1E screen (the hooded guy opening the doors).

Anyone have a decent scan/image of art from the the Trampier 1E screen?

 

[gideon_thorne]

Anyone have a decent scan/image of art from the the Trampier 1E screen?

this is the one I am referencing

 

[Philotomy Jurament]

Are you saying that the SIEGE Engine is overly complicated??

His review criticizes the 12/18 approach for target numbers, instead of using a single target number.

 

[Particle_Man]

Well the easy fix for that is TN=18, primes give +6 on rolls, right?