Reshooting game of thrones seasons 6+

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I can't be the only person thinking that once Winds Of Winter and the final book is complete (the former is 75% done now), that HBO should reshoot seasons 6 and onwards to match the books.

No one at HBO is thinking that. The contracts they'd have to negotiate. The costs of reassembling the team. Even if they could get the whole band back together -- which they couldn't -- the technology available in 2035, or whenever A Dream of Spring finally comes out (narrator: it will never come out), would mean none of it would match the original series, which then raises the question of remastering what will then be a decades-old TV show for a modest at best audience.

HBO's resources -- assuming Zaslav leaves anything left standing over at HBO -- will be better spent on Dunc & Egg, or other properties having nothing to do with GRRM.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

HBO's resources -- assuming Zaslav leaves anything left standing over at HBO -- will be better spent on Dunc & Egg, or other properties having nothing to do with GRRM.

Agreed. They will keep spinning off properties (Game of Thrones II: The Redragonning; House of Dragons: The Next Generation; A Song of Fire and Ice and Electric Boogaloo; Real Housewives of Westeros; etc.).

Eventually, enough time (five years?) will pass and it will be time to reboot Game of Thrones. And the cycle will start all over again!

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

If I were HBO, once House of the Dragon is over (and it's going to take about two years to see the next season, so who knows how long the series will take before it ends) and whatever GoT spin-offs eventually come and go, I'd be focusing on The Black Company.

There's not going to be the same up-front costs for licensing, since it's not a known property in the larger marketplace and Amazon has successfully shown that even hit fantasy series like Wheel of Time aren't guaranteed successes.

But LotR and GoT have shown that the tech to do medieval armies clashing well is here, and has been, and most of the The Black Company focuses on a cast smaller than the GoT cast who have the good manners to largely stay together in one location at a time, but the cast is big enough that if someone gets too pricy during contract renegotiation time, they can be replaced with a similar merc next season. And tonally, it's a good fit with the GoT audience without all of the violence toward women the GoT shows sometimes have.

 

[Staffan]

Also, it's not like A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons had the same quality as the previous books. It shows that they were written to bridge a timeline gap, with much of the books just being about getting people from A (where they were) to B (where the plot needs them to be).

 

[AnotherGuy]

Also, it's not like A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons had the same quality as the previous books. It shows that they were written to bridge a timeline gap, with much of the books just being about getting people from A (where they were) to B (where the plot needs them to be).

If only the characters in the books could access the fleet of teleportation and the dragon-jets, we'd have a book by now.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

If only the characters in the books could access the fleet of teleportation and the dragon-jets, we'd have a book by now.

Nah, he'd be busy detailing the in-flight meals.

 

[Mercurius]

Agreed. They will keep spinning off properties (Game of Thrones II: The Redragonning; House of Dragons: The Next Generation; A Song of Fire and Ice and Electric Boogaloo; Real Housewives of Westeros; etc.).

Eventually, enough time (five years?) will pass and it will be time to reboot Game of Thrones. And the cycle will start all over again!

The first will actually be Real Housewives of Lannisport. Although an HBO whistleblower claims that they're also considering Real Housewives of the Dornish Shore because of a more attractive cast.

Also, it's not like A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons had the same quality as the previous books. It shows that they were written to bridge a timeline gap, with much of the books just being about getting people from A (where they were) to B (where the plot needs them to be).

I only read the first book, but I'm a bit confused by this. Is there a big timeline gap?

I found this doc that gives a rather detailed timeline, which has the books spanning the following times:

A Game of Thrones: April, 297 - January, 299
A Clash of Kings: January, 299 - October, 299
A Storm of Swords: September, 299 - February, 300
A Feast for Crows: Nov, 299 - May, 300
A Dance with Dragons: Jan, 300 - August, 300
Winds of Winter: July, 300? - ???

So it seems there are no major time jumps, and lots of overlap between books. What is the "timeline gap" you speak of?

 

[MarkB]

No one at HBO is thinking that. The contracts they'd have to negotiate. The costs of reassembling the team. Even if they could get the whole band back together -- which they couldn't -- the technology available in 2035, or whenever A Dream of Spring finally comes out (narrator: it will never come out), would mean none of it would match the original series, which then raises the question of remastering what will then be a decades-old TV show for a modest at best audience.

HBO's resources -- assuming Zaslav leaves anything left standing over at HBO -- will be better spent on Dunc & Egg, or other properties having nothing to do with GRRM.

By that time they might be able to digitise the entire cast and setting, and just ask them to do some voice work.

On the other hand, by that time there might not be an HBO, or series television as we know it.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

So it seems there are no major time jumps, and lots of overlap between books. What is the "timeline gap" you speak of?

The series gets to the point that there are so many characters, in so many places, that he doesn't have time to catch up with all of them, and so we got a second book which is basically a lot of them hustling to get to where the next actual plot points will be, and this takes place simultaneously with the previous book.

If someone had a time machine and told GRRM to keep his POV characters to a dozen, he'd have been a lot better off.

 

[Dausuul]

The first will actually be Real Housewives of Lannisport. Although an HBO whistleblower claims that they're also considering Real Housewives of the Dornish Shore because of a more attractive cast.

I only read the first book, but I'm a bit confused by this. Is there a big timeline gap?

I found this doc that gives a rather detailed timeline, which has the books spanning the following times:

A Game of Thrones: April, 297 - January, 299
A Clash of Kings: January, 299 - October, 299
A Storm of Swords: September, 299 - February, 300
A Feast for Crows: Nov, 299 - May, 300
A Dance with Dragons: Jan, 300 - August, 300
Winds of Winter: July, 300? - ???

So it seems there are no major time jumps, and lots of overlap between books. What is the "timeline gap" you speak of?

GRRM's original plan was to skip ahead five years after "Storm of Swords." You'll notice how that book wraps up with all the major conflicts either resolved or dormant. Daenerys is settling in to rule Slavers' Bay, the Lannisters have beaten down their rivals and their hold on the throne appears secure, Mance Rayder's army has been crushed and Stannis has joined his forces to the Night's Watch. Arya is going off to become a Faceless Woman, Bran has gone beyond the Wall, Littlefinger is Lord of the Vale and Sansa is masquerading as his bastard daughter, Jon has become Lord Commander, and Tyrion has killed Tywin and Shae and fled Westeros. It's all set up where the next book could start "Five years later..." and you wouldn't feel like anything critical was skipped.

For whatever reason, GRRM decided the time jump wasn't going to work, and so he spent two books compressing and backfilling the plot that had been intended to happen offstage. The results were the least compelling books in the series (IMO).