Sarah Silverman leads class-action lawsuit against ChatGPT creator

overgeeked

B/X Known World
I'm not going to argue with you. If you refuse to understand how the technology works that's on you.
It’s wild how you’re posting my responses to you for me. How this works has already been demonstrated to you, in this thread or another like it. You seem to have forgotten. The “AI” regurgitated whole paragraphs of plagiarized text as an example. But apparently that’s not enough for you. Cool. Tschüss.
 

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overgeeked

B/X Known World
In case anyone needs a reminder. From earlier in this thread. Yes, "AI" generative text bots are plagiarism engines. They literally "learn" how to construct sentences based on their copyright violating input and will output the exact same text in some cases. As we can plainly see here.
I used Perplexity AI
Prompt
Write a paragraph about elves in the style of the D&D 5e Players Handbook

Output
Elves are a magical people of otherworldly grace, living in the world but not entirely part of it. They live in places of ethereal beauty, in the midst of ancient forests or in silvery spires glittering with faerie light, where soft music drifts through the air and gentle fragrances waft on the breeze. Elves love nature and magic, art and artistry, music and poetry, and the good things of the world. They are slender and graceful, with pointed ears and a natural elegance that sets them apart from other races. Elves can live well over 700 years, giving them a broad perspective on events that might trouble the shorter-lived races more deeply. They are more often amused than excited, and more likely to be curious than greedy. Elves tend to remain aloof and unfazed by petty happenstance, but when pursuing a goal, whether adventuring on a mission or learning a new skill or art, they can be focused and relentless. Elves are slow to make friends and enemies, and even slower to forget them. As a high elf, they are known for their keen senses, deep intuition, and remarkable resilience. They are also recognized for their magical abilities and their connection to the arcane. As a wood elf, they are characterized by their earthy appearance and forest-bound lifestyle. They are recognized for their stealth, archery skills, and their natural ability to blend seamlessly into the wilderness. Elves are a fascinating and diverse race, with many subraces and unique characteristics that make them a popular choice for players in the world of Dungeons and Dragons.

5e PHB (though the rest sounds like it might be from 3e or 4e)
Elves are a magical people of otherworldly grace, living in the world but not entirely part of it. They live in places of ethereal beauty, in the midst of ancient forests or in silvery spires glittering with faerie light, where soft music drifts through the air and gcntle fragrances waft on the breeze. Elves love nature and magic, art and artistry, music and poetry, and the good things of the world.

With their unearthly grace and fine features, elves appear hauntingly beautiful to humans and members of many other races. They are slightly shorter than humans on average, ranging from well under 5 feet tall to just over 6 feet. They are more slender than humans, weighing only 100 to 145 pounds. Males and females are about the same height, and males are only marginally heavier than females.

Elves' coloration encompasses the normal human range and also includes skin in shades of copper, bronze, and almost bluish-white, hair of green or blue, and eyes like pools of liquid gold or silver. Elves have no facial and little body hair. They favor elegant clothing in bright colors, and they enjoy simple yet lovely jewelry.

Elves can live well over 700 years, giving them a broad perspective on events that might trouble the shorterlived races more deeply. They are more often amused than excited, and more likely to be curious than greedy. They tend to remain aloof and unfazed by petty happenstance. When pursuing a goal, however, whether, adventuring on a mission or learning a new skill or art, elves can be focused and relentless. They are slow to make friends and enemies, and even slower to forget them. They reply to petty insults with disdain and to serious insults with vengeance.
 

In case anyone needs a reminder. From earlier in this thread. Yes, "AI" generative text bots are plagiarism engines. They literally "learn" how to construct sentences based on their copyright violating input and will output the exact same text in some cases. As we can plainly see here.
And then I also posted in which some of the AI tools aren't programed to do that and will out right say they can't do that.
 



Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
Yeah. Now the next digital arms race begins.

shrug

The avalanche has begun; it is too late for the pebbles to vote.

The world is not closed; even assuming (and that's a big if!) that we could get all the Western countries to quickly agree on a framework for regulation and compensation, we are not the entirety of the world. There is nothing prohibiting other places (and you know where) from continuing.

The technology is too useful, in too many areas, to be put back in the bottle at this point. While I am quite sure that we will see many skirmishes about how to monetize it ... and who gets that money ... I think that the continuing lesson of history is that concerns over the rights of workers has never prevented the proliferation of new technology.
 


Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
Pebbles don't get to vote. But ain't nobody can stop them from complaining about how things always seem to be going downhill.

Well, as a general rule history also shows us that while people in the present always complain that things are going downhill due to the latest technology, in the medium and long term, the technology actually benefits everyone, overall, greatly.

That doesn't make the complaints less valid; after all, to quote Keynes, in the long run we are all dead.

But while we should remain attentive to the negative impacts of technology to individuals, that doesn't mean we should be blind to the overall benefits to everyone.
 

UngainlyTitan

Legend
Supporter
Well, as a general rule history also shows us that while people in the present always complain that things are going downhill due to the latest technology, in the medium and long term, the technology actually benefits everyone, overall, greatly.

That doesn't make the complaints less valid; after all, to quote Keynes, in the long run we are all dead.

But while we should remain attentive to the negative impacts of technology to individuals, that doesn't mean we should be blind to the overall benefits to everyone.
To be honest, it is all most never the technology that harms the workers it is the way those with the capital can leverage that capital to deploy the tech in a way that reduces the power of workers in the system.
It takes a while for that to be mitigated.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Supporter
Well, as a general rule history also shows us that while people in the present always complain that things are going downhill due to the latest technology, in the medium and long term, the technology actually benefits everyone, overall, greatly.

Indeed, but generally technologies only become beneficial after a generation or so of us complaining about the issues, and those issues getting addressed.

Anyone who tells you things become beneficial without such feedback is trying to sell you something - probably a new technology. :)

But while we should remain attentive to the negative impacts of technology to individuals, that doesn't mean we should be blind to the overall benefits to everyone.

One of my early thesis prospects was training neural networks to simulate and analyze high energy particle physics events. I'm well aware of the potential benefits of the technology.

Honestly, at the root my complaint isn't about the technology itself, so much as the unethical initial approach to its use on the larger scale that then calls for an arms race between businesses and content creators.
 

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