[solo][pf]The Evil Eye
HolyMan
Thy wounds are healed!
Was working on stats and hit a snag in the HP department. Now I know a bard is no powerhouse in this department, but was wondering if for something like this we shouldn't up the HP/LVL after first a bit.
AS it is HP are at 32 before and increases, and there would need to be some as a lucky blow(crit), or a 8d6 fireball (average around 24 damage) would both have him one blow from dead.
Was thinking of max which would be 56 before any CON bonus. This would free me up a feat (Toughness) and make for staying power in a one-on-one fight.
But if that is to much what about 3/4 HP per LVL (6 in this case) That would be 44 before bonuses and make for a good character.
Nearly done with skills (pretty much ranks in everything) and feats(agile maneuvers, weapon finesse, combat expertise, improve disarm, toughness - hope to free up).
looking at the hardest part now spells.
HM
AS it is HP are at 32 before and increases, and there would need to be some as a lucky blow(crit), or a 8d6 fireball (average around 24 damage) would both have him one blow from dead.
Was thinking of max which would be 56 before any CON bonus. This would free me up a feat (Toughness) and make for staying power in a one-on-one fight.
But if that is to much what about 3/4 HP per LVL (6 in this case) That would be 44 before bonuses and make for a good character.
Nearly done with skills (pretty much ranks in everything) and feats(agile maneuvers, weapon finesse, combat expertise, improve disarm, toughness - hope to free up).
looking at the hardest part now spells.
HM
With no Con or other bonuses, HP for a 7th level bard would be 8 + 5*6 = 38.
You aren't replacing a regular 7th level party, remember; more like a 5th level (2nd ed) party. Edition changes may affect the toughness of some encounters / monsters, but as DM I'll try to minimize that problem. So if you think about how tough a 5th level party would be, you should realize that you aren't likely to encounter a lot of 8d6 fireballs, although I make no promises
Even though bardic music isn't that great without allies, there are some decent bard spells, and a lot of the power of the character can come from those.
That said, I was thinking about it too. It's a little tough to judge the effects of fewer actions per round vs. being higher level, especially since I don't yet know what spells you'll have.
So, it may be better to go with an 8th level bard. That gives you another attack on a full attack and more spells. Increase gold to 33k.
In doing this, of course, it gives me a little more leeway to cut loose with encounters
You aren't replacing a regular 7th level party, remember; more like a 5th level (2nd ed) party. Edition changes may affect the toughness of some encounters / monsters, but as DM I'll try to minimize that problem. So if you think about how tough a 5th level party would be, you should realize that you aren't likely to encounter a lot of 8d6 fireballs, although I make no promises
Even though bardic music isn't that great without allies, there are some decent bard spells, and a lot of the power of the character can come from those.
That said, I was thinking about it too. It's a little tough to judge the effects of fewer actions per round vs. being higher level, especially since I don't yet know what spells you'll have.
So, it may be better to go with an 8th level bard. That gives you another attack on a full attack and more spells. Increase gold to 33k.
In doing this, of course, it gives me a little more leeway to cut loose with encounters
HolyMan
Thy wounds are healed!
Ok than another lvl would help bring the hp up and give me a power boost. Didn't know the lvl of the game when I asked. Thought the monsters would be around the same lvl as the character. It makes perfect sense that they are not.
Ok than let me finish some first numbers and will post something up.
HM
Ok than let me finish some first numbers and will post something up.
HM
HolyMan
Thy wounds are healed!
[sblock=Jiles Du'Lamir]
[sblock=Game Info]
Race: Human
Class: Bard (favored)
Level: 8
Experience: ????
Alignment: Chaotic Good
Languages: Common, Elf, Dwarf, Draconic, Gobin, Giant
Deity: Oghma[/sblock]
[sblock=Abilities]
STR: 11 +0 (01pts)
DEX: 18 +4 (10pts) [+2 from item]
CON: 12 +1 (02ts)
INT: 14 +2 (05pts)
WIS: 12 +1 (02pts)
CHA: 20 +5 (05pts) [+2 racial, +2 item, +2 level ups][/sblock]
[sblock=Combat]
HP: 51 = [8d8=43 + 8 (CON)]
AC: 18 = 10 + 3 (armor) + 0 (shield) + 4 (DEX) + 1 (Dodge)
AC Touch: 15 = 10 + 4 (DEX) + 1 (Dodge)
AC Flatfooted: 13 = 10 + 3 (armor) + 0 (shield)
AC: 25 = 10 + 6 (armor) + 4 (shield) + 4 (DEX) + 1 (Dodge)
AC Touch: 15 = 10 + 4 (DEX) + 1 (Dodge)
AC Flatfooted: 20 = 10 + 6 (armor) + 4 (shield)
INIT: +4 = +4 (DEX)
BAB: +6/+1 = +6/+1 (Bard)
CMB: +10 = +4 (DEX) + 6 (BAB)
CMD: 20 = 10 + 0 (STR) + 4 (DEX) + 6 (BAB)
Fort: +4 = +2 (base) + 1 (stat) + 1 (item)
Reflex: +11 = +6 (base) + 4 (stat) + 1 (item)
Will: +8 = +6 (base) + 1 (stat) + 1 (item) + 2 (trait*)
Speed: 30'
Damage Reduction: N/A
Spell Resistance: N/A
* +2 to save vs fear
Colored AC's is when wearing chainshirt and wielding shield (i.e ready for combat)[/sblock]
[sblock=Weapon Stats]
+1 flaming longsword(melee): +7 = +6 (BAB) + 0 (STR) + 1 (item) / DMG = 1d8+1(S) + 1d6 (fire), CRIT 19-20x2
FULL ATTACK: +7/+2 = +6/+1 (BAB) + 0 (STR) + 1 (item) / DMG = 1d8+1(S) + 1d6 (fire), CRIT 19-20x2
Dagger(melee): +7 = +6 (BAB) + 0 (STR) + 1 (item)/ DMG = 1d4(P or S), CRIT 19-20x2
Dagger(range): +11 = +6 (BAB) + 4 (DEX) + 1 (item)/ DMG = 1d4(P or S), CRIT 19-20x2[/sblock]
[sblock=Racial Traits]
* +2 to one ability score - chose STR
* Medium - (no bonuses or penalties based on size)
* Normal speed - Base speed is 30 feet
* Bonus feat - chose Toughness
* Skilled - +1 skill rank at 1st level, and +1 skill rank whenever a level is gained
* Languages - Common [/sblock]
[sblock=Class Features]
Bardic Knowledge
Bardic Performance
Cantrips
Countersong
Distraction
Fascinate
Inspire Courage +2
Versatile Performance
Well Versed
Inspire Competence +3
Lore Master
Suggestion
Dirge of Doom
[/sblock]
[sblock=Feats&Traits]
Prof. with all simple weapons plus longsword, rapier, sap, short sword, short bow, and whip
Prof. with light armor
Prof. with all shields (except tower)
Agile Maneuvers (human bonus)
Dodge (first lvl)
Combat Expertise (3rd lvl)
Improve Disarm (5th lvl)
Second Chance (7th lvl)
Traits:
Courageous +2 to saves vs. fear
Classically Schooled +1 trait bonus to Spellcraft checks[/sblock]
[sblock=Skills]
Skill Ranks: 75 = 48 (6/lvl from class) + 16 (INT) + 8 (human) + 3 (favored class)
Max Ranks: 8 ACP: -0(-2)
Skills:
[/sblock]
[sblock=Spells]
Spells per Day:
Cantrips: 6
1st lvl: 5
2nd lvl: 5
3rd lvl: 3
Spells Known:
[/sblock]
[sblock=Equipment]
Treasure: 68gp 17sp 6cp Gems: none
Total weight carried: 36.5lbs
Maximum weight possible: 38-light, 76-medium, 115-heavy [/sblock]
[sblock=Details]
Size: Medium
Gender: Male
Age: 32
Height: 5'-11"
Weight: 140lbs
Hair Color: Sandy Brown
Eye Color: Blue
Skin Color: Lightly complexed
Apperance: travel stained and keep up a shoddy apperance so as not to be robbed
Demeanor: jovial but reserved Jiles likes to have fun whenever possible but needs to get to know a person well before he will commit any kind of friendship.
[sblock=Background] Jiles life has been one long road leading from what seemed one mishap to the next. If he wasn't running from Thay operatives trying to put another notion in their scarab, he was talking his way out of joining the Moonstars.
"Ah how long since the Year of the Unstrung harp?" he asks himself. A lot longer than he cared to remember and more years adding to the little gray starting to show in his hair.
The first roads led him from Cormyr to the Dalelands. He was what? Sixteen or seventeen that year when he ended up with a small group of misfits like himself and stopped a con artist and his goblin henchmen from running a protection scam on... "What was the name of that little villiage? Scaverdon? Scarsden? I'm not sure but it was just a day east of Tilverton on the road to Ashabenford."
Jiles shrugs he could find the place easy enough and new most of what he needed of the small hamlet, just not the name. "Almost the same as Granville there. Ha!" he laughs smiling. "They are all the same the world over."
Granville was just another end of another road. This one though had a nasty ogre at the end of it. Jiles had used all his skills the day before to best the beast. The first time he had faced ogres he wasn't alone and his skills were not so sharp. "It was outside Harrowdale and poor Trig, he didn't make it through that battle. First time fighting ogres and the first time I had a companion die before my eyes." He frowns and before anymore melancholy thoughts form he says to himself. "And it wasn't the last time for either, push on you lazy old man."
Harrowdale. Memories of that place always made Jiles smile. The Council of Burghers had sent Jiles and his friends on a mission deep into the Pirate Isles. It was months of travel by boat, and then island hopping from secret cove to secret cove till they found a nasty den of thieves that were disrupting traffic up to the MoonSea. "That ended good, least nobody died."
What happen after that? Jiles tries to sort his thoughts. "I lost a few years running errands for a bunch of idiots. That's what happened." True for three years Jiles and his friends ventured all over for the people of Harrowdale. They seemed to need all kinds of help with this plight or that. "But had you not then you wouldn't be where you are today." he berates himself. "Had you not been a help then the Harpers they would have never took notice."
And they had noticed Jiles and one day they approached him with an offer. Join them and help do some good on a grander scale or continue to run errands for the Council. He readily accepted and his first assignment was a duosy to be sure. Travel to Mount Thay, make sure they don't unleash a dark demon, and see if he could steal the scrolls they were using for the ritual, so they can never try it again.
"Now that I remember in full, and like it was yesterday." Jiles says hefting his pack and continuing down the hill towards Granville. "It was winter and a fresh coat of snow covered the ground. Dorn was sitting with his feet up near the fire, and I was...." (to long maybe I'll tell it a little at a time).[/sblock]
[/sblock][/sblock]
[sblock=Game Info]
Race: Human
Class: Bard (favored)
Level: 8
Experience: ????
Alignment: Chaotic Good
Languages: Common, Elf, Dwarf, Draconic, Gobin, Giant
Deity: Oghma[/sblock]
[sblock=Abilities]
STR: 11 +0 (01pts)
DEX: 18 +4 (10pts) [+2 from item]
CON: 12 +1 (02ts)
INT: 14 +2 (05pts)
WIS: 12 +1 (02pts)
CHA: 20 +5 (05pts) [+2 racial, +2 item, +2 level ups][/sblock]
[sblock=Combat]
HP: 51 = [8d8=43 + 8 (CON)]
AC: 18 = 10 + 3 (armor) + 0 (shield) + 4 (DEX) + 1 (Dodge)
AC Touch: 15 = 10 + 4 (DEX) + 1 (Dodge)
AC Flatfooted: 13 = 10 + 3 (armor) + 0 (shield)
AC: 25 = 10 + 6 (armor) + 4 (shield) + 4 (DEX) + 1 (Dodge)
AC Touch: 15 = 10 + 4 (DEX) + 1 (Dodge)
AC Flatfooted: 20 = 10 + 6 (armor) + 4 (shield)
INIT: +4 = +4 (DEX)
BAB: +6/+1 = +6/+1 (Bard)
CMB: +10 = +4 (DEX) + 6 (BAB)
CMD: 20 = 10 + 0 (STR) + 4 (DEX) + 6 (BAB)
Fort: +4 = +2 (base) + 1 (stat) + 1 (item)
Reflex: +11 = +6 (base) + 4 (stat) + 1 (item)
Will: +8 = +6 (base) + 1 (stat) + 1 (item) + 2 (trait*)
Speed: 30'
Damage Reduction: N/A
Spell Resistance: N/A
* +2 to save vs fear
Colored AC's is when wearing chainshirt and wielding shield (i.e ready for combat)[/sblock]
[sblock=Weapon Stats]
+1 flaming longsword(melee): +7 = +6 (BAB) + 0 (STR) + 1 (item) / DMG = 1d8+1(S) + 1d6 (fire), CRIT 19-20x2
FULL ATTACK: +7/+2 = +6/+1 (BAB) + 0 (STR) + 1 (item) / DMG = 1d8+1(S) + 1d6 (fire), CRIT 19-20x2
Dagger(melee): +7 = +6 (BAB) + 0 (STR) + 1 (item)/ DMG = 1d4(P or S), CRIT 19-20x2
Dagger(range): +11 = +6 (BAB) + 4 (DEX) + 1 (item)/ DMG = 1d4(P or S), CRIT 19-20x2[/sblock]
[sblock=Racial Traits]
* +2 to one ability score - chose STR
* Medium - (no bonuses or penalties based on size)
* Normal speed - Base speed is 30 feet
* Bonus feat - chose Toughness
* Skilled - +1 skill rank at 1st level, and +1 skill rank whenever a level is gained
* Languages - Common [/sblock]
[sblock=Class Features]
Bardic Knowledge
Bardic Performance
Cantrips
Countersong
Distraction
Fascinate
Inspire Courage +2
Versatile Performance
Well Versed
Inspire Competence +3
Lore Master
Suggestion
Dirge of Doom
[/sblock]
[sblock=Feats&Traits]
Prof. with all simple weapons plus longsword, rapier, sap, short sword, short bow, and whip
Prof. with light armor
Prof. with all shields (except tower)
Agile Maneuvers (human bonus)
Dodge (first lvl)
Combat Expertise (3rd lvl)
Improve Disarm (5th lvl)
Second Chance (7th lvl)
Traits:
Courageous +2 to saves vs. fear
Classically Schooled +1 trait bonus to Spellcraft checks[/sblock]
[sblock=Skills]
Skill Ranks: 75 = 48 (6/lvl from class) + 16 (INT) + 8 (human) + 3 (favored class)
Max Ranks: 8 ACP: -0(-2)
Skills:
Code:
Skills Total Rank CS Ability ACP Misc
Acrobatics +8 1 3 4 -0 +0
Appraise +6 1 3 2 +0
Bluff +5 0 0 5 +0
Climb +0 0 0 0 -0 +0
Craft (woodworking) +2 0 0 2 +0
Diplomacy +16 8 3 5 +0
Disable Device +10 4 0 4 -0 +2
Disguise +5 0 0 5 +0
Escape Artist +8 1 3 4 -0 +0
Fly +4 0 0 4 -0 +0
Handle Animal +6 1 0 5 +0
Heal +1 0 0 1 +0
Intimidate +9 1 3 5 +0
Knowledge (Arcana) +12 3 3 2 +4
Knowledge (Dngnrng) +10 1 3 2 +4
Knowledge (Engnrng) +10 1 3 2 +4
Knowledge (Geography) +12 3 3 2 +4
Knowledge (History) +12 3 3 2 +4
Knowledge (Local) +12 3 3 2 +4
Knowledge (Nature) +10 1 3 2 +4
Knowledge (Nobility) +12 3 3 2 +4
Knowledge (Planes) +12 3 3 2 +4
Knowledge (Religion) +12 3 3 2 +4
Linguistics +8 3 3 2 +0
Perception +12 8 3 1 +0
Perform (Oratory) +16 8 3 5 +0
Profession (Sage) +5 1 3 1 +0
Ride +4 0 0 4 -0 +0
Sense Motive +5 1 3 1 +0
Sleight of Hand +8 1 3 4 -0 +0
Spellcraft +7 1 3 2 +1
Stealth +20 8 3 4 -0 +5
Survival +1 0 0 1 +0
Swim +0 0 0 0 -0 +0
Use Magic Device +9 1 3 5 +0[sblock=Spells]
Spells per Day:
Cantrips: 6
1st lvl: 5
2nd lvl: 5
3rd lvl: 3
Spells Known:
Code:
Cantrips 1st lvl 2nd lvl 3rd lvl
spark cure light wounds cure moderate wounds see invisiblity
mending detect secert doors tongues haste
open/close feather fall versitile weapon dispel magic
read magic vanish ghostbane dirge
detect magic timely inspiriation heroism
know direction saving finale hold person
touch of gracelessness[sblock=Equipment]
Code:
ITEM COST WEIGHT
+1 leather armor of shadow 4,160gp 15lb
+1 flaming longsword 8,315gp 4lb
(mw) dagger 302gp 1lb
belt of incredible dexterity +2 4,000gp 0lb
headband of alluring charisma +2 4,000gp 0lb
cloak of resistance +1 1,000gp 0lb
Traveler's Outfit free 0lb
Bag of Holding (type 1) 2,500gp 15lb
-- +2 chainshirt 4,250gp ---
-- +2 heavy steel shield 4,170gp ---
-- bedroll 1sp ---
-- rope (50'hemp) 1gp ---
-- torches(4) 4cp ---
-- rations,trail(8days) 4gp ---
-- waterskins(2) 2gp ---
-- crowbar 2gp ---
-- hammer 5sp ---
-- pitons(4) 4sp ---
-- sack,empty 1sp ---
-- spade 2gp ---
-- peasant's outfit 1sp ---
-- mw thieve's tools 100gp ---
Belt Pouch 1gp .5lb
-flint and steel 1gp 0lb
-mirror,small steel 10gp .5lb
-potions cure light(x2) 100gp .5lbTotal weight carried: 36.5lbs
Maximum weight possible: 38-light, 76-medium, 115-heavy [/sblock]
[sblock=Details]
Size: Medium
Gender: Male
Age: 32
Height: 5'-11"
Weight: 140lbs
Hair Color: Sandy Brown
Eye Color: Blue
Skin Color: Lightly complexed
Apperance: travel stained and keep up a shoddy apperance so as not to be robbed
Demeanor: jovial but reserved Jiles likes to have fun whenever possible but needs to get to know a person well before he will commit any kind of friendship.
[sblock=Background] Jiles life has been one long road leading from what seemed one mishap to the next. If he wasn't running from Thay operatives trying to put another notion in their scarab, he was talking his way out of joining the Moonstars.
"Ah how long since the Year of the Unstrung harp?" he asks himself. A lot longer than he cared to remember and more years adding to the little gray starting to show in his hair.
The first roads led him from Cormyr to the Dalelands. He was what? Sixteen or seventeen that year when he ended up with a small group of misfits like himself and stopped a con artist and his goblin henchmen from running a protection scam on... "What was the name of that little villiage? Scaverdon? Scarsden? I'm not sure but it was just a day east of Tilverton on the road to Ashabenford."
Jiles shrugs he could find the place easy enough and new most of what he needed of the small hamlet, just not the name. "Almost the same as Granville there. Ha!" he laughs smiling. "They are all the same the world over."
Granville was just another end of another road. This one though had a nasty ogre at the end of it. Jiles had used all his skills the day before to best the beast. The first time he had faced ogres he wasn't alone and his skills were not so sharp. "It was outside Harrowdale and poor Trig, he didn't make it through that battle. First time fighting ogres and the first time I had a companion die before my eyes." He frowns and before anymore melancholy thoughts form he says to himself. "And it wasn't the last time for either, push on you lazy old man."
Harrowdale. Memories of that place always made Jiles smile. The Council of Burghers had sent Jiles and his friends on a mission deep into the Pirate Isles. It was months of travel by boat, and then island hopping from secret cove to secret cove till they found a nasty den of thieves that were disrupting traffic up to the MoonSea. "That ended good, least nobody died."
What happen after that? Jiles tries to sort his thoughts. "I lost a few years running errands for a bunch of idiots. That's what happened." True for three years Jiles and his friends ventured all over for the people of Harrowdale. They seemed to need all kinds of help with this plight or that. "But had you not then you wouldn't be where you are today." he berates himself. "Had you not been a help then the Harpers they would have never took notice."
And they had noticed Jiles and one day they approached him with an offer. Join them and help do some good on a grander scale or continue to run errands for the Council. He readily accepted and his first assignment was a duosy to be sure. Travel to Mount Thay, make sure they don't unleash a dark demon, and see if he could steal the scrolls they were using for the ritual, so they can never try it again.
"Now that I remember in full, and like it was yesterday." Jiles says hefting his pack and continuing down the hill towards Granville. "It was winter and a fresh coat of snow covered the ground. Dorn was sitting with his feet up near the fire, and I was...." (to long maybe I'll tell it a little at a time).[/sblock]
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HolyMan
Thy wounds are healed!
All I have done is brainstorm in connection to his stats and skills. I know he was sen to bardic college and he is a warrior poet.
Well he is actually only a warrior when he has to be that's why the +20 stealth
I can just be from any generic place as the background won't play to much into the game just into his personality right. Not sure of the CG alignment just yet as I don;t want him overly gruff just not really forth coming.
Will have it worked out by tonight/tomorrow I am off work the next two and can get it done.
HM
Well he is actually only a warrior when he has to be that's why the +20 stealth
I can just be from any generic place as the background won't play to much into the game just into his personality right. Not sure of the CG alignment just yet as I don;t want him overly gruff just not really forth coming.
Will have it worked out by tonight/tomorrow I am off work the next two and can get it done.
HM
I just noticed that you have Jiles at 36, which is middle aged. Either apply the appropriate ability modifiers or dial back that age a couple of years. (Uh oh ... if only I could dial back my own age that easily!)
Any progress on background and personality? It doesn't have to be very detailed, but there should be a bit to draw on and get things started.
Any progress on background and personality? It doesn't have to be very detailed, but there should be a bit to draw on and get things started.
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