The Original Titans (3.5)

[Khisanth the Ancient]

Possibly. The top Primordials might be planet sized...though I don't necessarily consider Ymir amongst the top.

The Earth and various heavens were made out of Ymir's body, so it seems that he would have to be at least planet sized. I agree that's a bit far up for the progenitor of just Frost Giants though; that's why I suggested making Ymir progenitor of all of them (& maybe the first Primordial) and giving the Frost Giants to his son Thrudgelmir (who was a six headed monster).

 

[Upper_Krust]

The Earth and various heavens were made out of Ymir's body, so it seems that he would have to be at least planet sized.

By heavens they meant sky. But in other mythologies different beings represent the Earth (Gaia etc.). Still its food for thought I suppose.

Also Muspelheim predates Ymir so does that mean Surtur predates him?

I agree that's a bit far up for the progenitor of just Frost Giants though; that's why I suggested making Ymir progenitor of all of them (& maybe the first Primordial) and giving the Frost Giants to his son Thrudgelmir (who was a six headed monster).

Possibly.

 

[Khisanth the Ancient]

By heavens they meant sky.

Sometimes Asgard, etc. were made from Ymir's body as well.

Also Muspelheim predates Ymir so does that mean Surtur predates him?

Doubt it; I don't think Surtur is a personification or anything of Muspellheim, just an inhabitant of it.

 

[Kerrick]

Not sure; you may notice Prometheus lacks one as well

Any suggestions?

Actually, I didn't, but.... let's see. If I were giving them ECLs through my system, I'd eyeball him at around ECL 100 (outsiders are generally HD * 1.5), or CR 65. Prometheus I'd put around ECL 45, or CR 29-30 - a good challenge for a L25-30 party.