[UPDATED] WotC To Close Forums - Including D&D and M:tG (aka "Welcome New Forum Members to EN World!

WotC has announced that it will be closing its forums, which they refer to as a "former foundation of our community". The forums will close on October 29th. Of course, WotC's forum members are welcome here at EN World (although the expectations are a little different, so please do check the rules if you sign up!) The forums have been around for nearly two decades, in various incarnations, but WotC cites the rise of social media platforms as the reason for the closure.

WotC has announced that it will be closing its forums, which they refer to as a "former foundation of our community". The forums will close on October 29th. Of course, WotC's forum members are welcome here at EN World (although the expectations are a little different, so please do check the rules if you sign up!) The forums have been around for nearly two decades, in various incarnations, but WotC cites the rise of social media platforms as the reason for the closure.

Here's the announcement in full.

Choosing to retire a former foundation of our community was not an easy decision, but we feel that we must adjust our communications structure to reflect where conversations about Wizards of the Coast games are taking place.

Social media has changed significantly over the last ten years, and discussions about games aren't exclusive to company-hosted forums. The majority of community conversation takes place on third-party websites (such as Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, Tumblr, and many other fantastic community-run websites), and it is up to us to evolve alongside our players.

We encourage past and current users to retrieve any information you want to retain from the Community Forums for both Dungeons & Dragons and Magic: The Gathering. The shutdown will occur on October 29, 2015, at 10:00 a.m. PT. We want to provide enough time for our forum members to move their content, and we recognize that given our forum's vibrant user base and extensive history, this may take time. Any information still on the forums on the cut-off date will be deleted.

Thank you to all of our past and current forum users. You helped build our community into what it is now, and we look forward to continuing to interact with you on our many active social platforms.


WotC's Trevor Kidd had a little more to add.

"I could hop onto all the forums having this discussion or I can say it here and let it disseminate. I'm choosing the former. Moving away from running our own forums doesn't mean we think longer conversations or fan sites/forums aren't good or necessary. They are both good & necessary. From what I'm seeing, they flourish and you enjoy them more when they are run/managed by fans.

DnD & RPGs in general are all about story telling & talking with friends. It makes sense that we want to share those stories. So, it's vital that we have places to share those experiences & stories, like forums & fansites. But it's not vital that #dnd run those.

Closing our forums does not in any way lessen our interactions. We'll still be talking & lurking in your social media & fan sites. And the idea that forums are going away because dnd &/or magic are doing poorly - that's ludicrous! :p Both are doing very, very well.

We'll still be talking with you here, and elsewhere. Enjoy your new forum homes and don't forget to migrate your treasured content!

On the topic of losing forum content - it's tough, I agree. Once we knew we were going to close the forums, we also knew we weren't going to maintain the community site indefinitely, so we opted to pull the band-aid off quickly rather than let it linger."


Welcome to new members!

If you're a refugee from WotC's forums, you are very welcome here. You can register here at EN World by clicking here. You'll find out community busy and vibrant, and generally welcoming. We've been here over 15 years now, and there is tons of useful content here and lots of great resources which you're welcome to explore. These include:


(Announcement spotted initially by Critical Hits on the Twitters).
 

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Remathilis

Legend
Apparently the retailers are not bothered by that.
Retailers get their Magic money mostly at tournaments and collectors, which requires physical cards. Online MTG is a completely different game for that purpose. The two are incompatible. That is not true of D&D, where PDF books are a substitute for the physical books.

To a retailer, MTG online is to MTG what Sword Coast Legends is to D&D. PDFs are akin to some "print your own cards" tech.
 



Nightfall

Sage of the Scarred Lands
Sorry folks, been a rough week and I've been bitchier than usual. There was no call, errr... calling out Nightfall Sage like that and it was completely counter productive.

There's no point in trying to drag up the past. It's dead and best left buried.

Don't worry about Hussar. It's all the in past. If you have issues with me, I feel we can work them out amicably this time around. It's been more than 10 years, I think we can both hope growth occurred. *hands Hussar a cookie*
 

aramis erak

Legend
Teenagers don't really use FB much anymore - at least not since their parents all started using it. They use it for the excellent event organization tools, invitations, that sort of thing, but not for general conversation or updates.

Mine certainly does use a lot of facebook. As do a lot of other high-school aged students. It my not be true of Britain, but it's certainly true in Alaska that teens are making a lot of use of facebook, and especially Messenger. (Half the time, if I want to get a response from my teen, I get faster response by using FB Messenger than by shouting down the stairwell.)
 

Mistwell

Crusty Old Meatwad (he/him)
Teenagers don't really use FB much anymore - at least not since their parents all started using it. They use it for the excellent event organization tools, invitations, that sort of thing, but not for general conversation or updates.

This is the PEW Research Center survey on teens and social media, from 5 months ago:

1. Facebook is the most popular and frequently used social media platform among teens;
2. Among American teens ages 13 to 17, 71% of all teens use Facebook, followed by half using Instagram, and four-in-ten use Snapchat;
3. Facebook remains a "dominant force in teens’ social media ecosystems";
4. For those who use more than one social media platform, Facebook was the site they used most frequently;
5. Here is the break-down:
PI_2015-04-09_teensandtech_01.png
 
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Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
This is the PEW Research Center survey on teens and social media, from 5 months ago:

1. Facebook is the most popular and frequently used social media platform among teens;
2. Among American teens ages 13 to 17, 71% of all teens use Facebook, followed by half using Instagram, and four-in-ten use Snapchat;
3. Facebook remains a "dominant force in teens’ social media ecosystems";
4. For those who use more than one social media platform, Facebook was the site they used most frequently;
5. Here is the break-down:
PI_2015-04-09_teensandtech_01.png

It lacks nuance, and doesn't really contradict what I said. They all use Facebook - 1 billion people do! - but not necessarily for functions that other apps provide. The primary FB usage is event organisation and invitations in that age group. Not social updates or pictures.

Nobody stops using FB completely, because everybody is on it. So you use it if you're arranging a birthday or something, and the Facebook Messenger is very usefu as an easy replacement for texts (though it's competing with WhatsApp for that). But kids don't use it for social updates, because their teachers and parents are using it for that. Sure, you can manage lists and privacy settings, but that's work. So FB gets used for certain things, and Snapchat/Instagram/Tumblr get used for other things.

But yeah, everybody uses FB for *something*. But their usage of it is becoming more and more specific, with many functions being done better by other dedicated services.
 

SkidAce

Legend
Supporter
Don't worry about Hussar. It's all the in past. If you have issues with me, I feel we can work them out amicably this time around. It's been more than 10 years, I think we can both hope growth occurred. *hands Hussar a cookie*

10 years already? Are you serious....wow...I would have guessed...maybe...five...sheesh time flies when you are having fun (and getting older).

Where'd this guy go? "My hat of d02 noes no limit.."
 


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