Queen_Dopplepopolis
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I also think it's important to remember that Archonus knew when he swore the oath in the first place that it came First - above all other things...
Once more, it's not a decision of the group - it's part and parcel of a contract you entered into willingly, in order to recieve some pretty sweet benefits. I'm just enforcing the rule.so my question to the group is
"How can Archonus put his child first and not be a traitor?"
Bringing in Dara was not the cause of this. Reacting in a certain way to bringing in Dara (who has important information that is being ignored) is what is causing this.yes. i am committed to the creation of suckitude. That's just silly.
That kinda sucks seeing as how my character has had to defend himself through out the entire game. This last little bout of drama was inspired by the "hey, i think it's a good idea to bring in Dara plan." Things just got crazy from there.
Good parents don't enter into eternal oaths dedicating themselves to a group of adults and their above all else, either. It's not a regular situation, and it's silly to treat is as such. I have no qualms about saying that putting the child first would be *good* parenting. It absolutely is. The fact remains that it is good parenting that conflicts with the oath you chose to make.You want me to compromise and say something that not only seems out of character for Archonus but would be out of character for anyone who wants to call themselves human. What good parent doesn't put their kid first?
This is what I expect as well, and the Arendorr manor discussion continues, I think you can see that we agree on this.As far as having the baby constantly around, well it might come up but most of the baby time would be off camera. The battles, the missions, the times when we'd be fighting/defending, the baby would not be a part of. Archon isn't starpping this kid to his back and leaping into battle, he just wants to be a part of his childs life.
There has to be a reasonable limit, though. No matter how much you want Archon to swim through lava, you just can't do it without dying. Is this the *only* way that you can have fun with the character? It seems obvious that it is not.You guys are acting like Archonus has betrayed the group. Well he hasn't, but you still want to mark his flesh(more) and call him a traitor. I understand that the Oath rule could be interpeted that way but don't forget the golden rule.
"Fun first"
how fun is that for me? not much.
A magical oath that brands you as a traitor and potentially holds the fate of the world on its back?Archon said:i disagree completely. Children should always come first. If i had to choose between staying in the army(to which i have sworn an Oath) and raising a child i would choose the child in a heartbeat. I would try and do both obviously, but if i had to choose.
Archon said:yes. i am committed to the creation of suckitude. That's just silly.
That kinda sucks seeing as how my character has had to defend himself through out the entire game. This last little bout of drama was inspired by the "hey, i think it's a good idea to bring in Dara plan." Things just got crazy from there.
I am not soley responsible for this crazy situation.
You want me to compromise and say something that not only seems out of character for Archonus but would be out of character for anyone who wants to call themselves human. What good parent doesn't put their kid first?
As far as having the baby constantly around, well it might come up but most of the baby time would be off camera. The battles, the missions, the times when we'd be fighting/defending, the baby would not be a part of. Archon isn't starpping this kid to his back and leaping into battle, he just wants to be a part of his childs life.
You guys are acting like Archonus has betrayed the group. Well he hasn't, but you still want to mark his flesh(more) and call him a traitor. I understand that the Oath rule could be interpeted that way but don't forget the golden rule.
"Fun first"
how fun is that for me? not much.
so my question to the group is
"How can Archonus put his child first and not be a traitor?"
AIM-54 said:Oh, poor Archon, how we have mistreated you!
Quit this pity me, BS. You are playing your character to the hilt and, as far as I'm concerned, it has been with little regard for group dynamics and the fun of more than yourself. You've pretty much sucked up the limelight since this thing rolled around and continue to make suboptimal decisions WHICH EFFECT THE REST OF THE GROUP. That's what's so concerning. You seem to have no ability to step back, say, this is just a game, and making X and Y decisions is clearly causing problems, therefore I'll back off the character a bit so we CAN ALL PLAY and maybe others can enjoy some time in the limelight. I dunno. I'm too old to want to hack through this kind of drama in what's supposed to be a game, a hobby, hell I don't want to do it in real life, because that sucks even more.
Kennon has been more than fair and the rest of us have been pretty damn patient, so suck it up.
The_Universe said:OK - Just so I know what the heck is going on....
Xath's revelation of her own apparent pregnancy does change Archon's situation somewhat. He now has another child that he can care about.
But, that doesn't necessarily return the circle to the primacy the oath requires. All it does is place Xath's child on an even keel with Jaine's children, giving him another kid that he would apparently readily break his oath of Alliance for.
We did discuss it in person... or tried to... however, it was quickly shoved to the back-burner. Hopefully we'll get it all worked out in the next couple days, though.Xath said:I'm going to ask that we stop this dynamic now. If we have issues in person, we can work them out in person. But making accusations on the boards doesn't help anyone and it upsets plenty of people.