I haven't thought about it that way yet, that's a very good point.
The real flaw of 3E/3.5E/OGL
I haven't thought about it that way yet, that's a very good point.
Henry
Autoexreginated
I can agree with it, too. If your favorite thing was games that had to take into account lots of world-spanning teleports & dimension travel, save-or-screwed spells, the war between extremely powerful scrys and divinations and their countermeasures, and the tactics that accompany all these things, then 4e is going to disappoint you as-is.
Aeolius
Adventurer
I side with those who consider this to be a strength, not a weakness. Some DMs prefer combat-heavy, others prefer combat-light. Some prefer Greyhawk, FR, or Eberron, while others prefer a homebrew world. Some want to keep to the core rules, while others want to incorporate every splatbook known to mankind. Some DMs might even want to run an entire campaign underwater.
It's all D&D. "D&D is a game about slaying horrible monsters, not a game about traipsing off through fairy rings and interacting with the little people." - James Wyatt, "Races and Classes" (pg. 34)
I respectfully disagree. If "killing things and taking their stuff" was the sole focus of D&D, I'd be playing canasta right about now.
What you calla weakness or a flaw, others see as a strength or a huge selling point. The fact taht OGL had such huge variety meant I caould find or play almost anything.
Now we're playing in Ptolus, and frankly you will never see such a GREAT product in 4e or any other edition. Variety, as someone once said, is a spice of life.
Now we're playing in Ptolus, and frankly you will never see such a GREAT product in 4e or any other edition. Variety, as someone once said, is a spice of life.
All of those listed except save-or-screw were among my least favorite things or held no interetst for me (save or screw,imo, just needed a slight reworking). Yet, I still find 4e disappointing as-is (despite liking a few changes).
Ranger REG
Explorer
It's a platform, like Windows or Mac OS. Games (and settings) vary (from Fallout 3 RPG style to Star Wars: KOTOR) but still play on the same platform.
The computer-platform analogy may illuminate a cause of "edition wars."
I at last gave up on the Commodore 64 because it cost more to get a floppy drive repaired than to buy a used one still in decent shape -- but availability of the latter shrank as (A) people started just to dump them and (B) the remainder were on average in ever worse condition.
Assuming, though, that such hardware troubles were not relevant, I could still run all the same software. A fair number of other computers 20+ years old are still in use, and even more potentially usable.
The main impetus for an upgrade is the desire to run newer programs.
I at last gave up on the Commodore 64 because it cost more to get a floppy drive repaired than to buy a used one still in decent shape -- but availability of the latter shrank as (A) people started just to dump them and (B) the remainder were on average in ever worse condition.
Assuming, though, that such hardware troubles were not relevant, I could still run all the same software. A fair number of other computers 20+ years old are still in use, and even more potentially usable.
The main impetus for an upgrade is the desire to run newer programs.
Slife
First Post
Yeah. The bystander rolls a natural one.
