Carnifex
First Post
Exhaustion with a capital E, as in the condition, is not the problem here. I mean, sure, it *is* an issue because Greater Restoration costs 100gp of spell components a pop. Even if not long resting is the only source of exhaustion XxxUberNecroEdgexxX here has, and for some reason he's only gaining 1 level of Exhaustion from it per day (and there's a strong argument he should be gaining it more frequently, especially after having been awake for a week) he's spending tens of thousands of gp per year just to stay awake. He's probably spending much more if he does anything significant to exert himself.
Given that a situation can inflict one or more levels of Exhaustion in one go, I'd probably, as a DM, start increasing the number inflicted in one go after long enough of no sleep; once it hits 6 levels at a time he just dies. Now, that's obviously something one can argue about if one wants, but it's also a perfectly valid application of the rules and more closely matches actual rest-deprivation effects on individuals who are artificially sustained via stimulants etc. Without a means to prevent him from needing to long rest at all, he *will* eventually die, because his body still needs that rest and the situation will become lethal.
But the tricky bit is exhaustion without a capital e. Normal characters have to make a Con save to go without sleep - note that it's not 'to avoid Exhaustion when going without sleep', but to go without sleep at all. Fail, and a character is going to end up involuntarily long-resting when they fall asleep, keel over or pass out. Now, elves don't need to sleep - but they do need to trance. The logical application of the same circumstances to an elf avoiding getting their full trance via long-resting is Con saves, with a similar outcome. EdgeLord69 *will* fail that Con save at some point, whereupon over he goes.
Oooor he could take Aspect of the Moon and neatly solve both problems.
But, I mean, this is literally a set of character-ending problems at the very first step, before we even look over the rest of the character and see things like you not understanding how the Wood Elf Magic feat works, or that he's attuned to too many magic items, or how you said 'no Unearthed Arcana stuff' and yet the character is himself using a UA feat. (And possibly how you've calculated his saves wrong, but this may be an error on my part; there's +2 to his saves I can't account for but may be missing something).
Given that a situation can inflict one or more levels of Exhaustion in one go, I'd probably, as a DM, start increasing the number inflicted in one go after long enough of no sleep; once it hits 6 levels at a time he just dies. Now, that's obviously something one can argue about if one wants, but it's also a perfectly valid application of the rules and more closely matches actual rest-deprivation effects on individuals who are artificially sustained via stimulants etc. Without a means to prevent him from needing to long rest at all, he *will* eventually die, because his body still needs that rest and the situation will become lethal.
But the tricky bit is exhaustion without a capital e. Normal characters have to make a Con save to go without sleep - note that it's not 'to avoid Exhaustion when going without sleep', but to go without sleep at all. Fail, and a character is going to end up involuntarily long-resting when they fall asleep, keel over or pass out. Now, elves don't need to sleep - but they do need to trance. The logical application of the same circumstances to an elf avoiding getting their full trance via long-resting is Con saves, with a similar outcome. EdgeLord69 *will* fail that Con save at some point, whereupon over he goes.
Oooor he could take Aspect of the Moon and neatly solve both problems.
But, I mean, this is literally a set of character-ending problems at the very first step, before we even look over the rest of the character and see things like you not understanding how the Wood Elf Magic feat works, or that he's attuned to too many magic items, or how you said 'no Unearthed Arcana stuff' and yet the character is himself using a UA feat. (And possibly how you've calculated his saves wrong, but this may be an error on my part; there's +2 to his saves I can't account for but may be missing something).
