No, not particularly – try again, baby!
Actually, I can see this thread drifting into the arena of the unwell, so if a mod wants to delete it, I would be grateful.
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No, not particularly – try again, baby!
Actually, I can see this thread drifting into the arena of the unwell, so if a mod wants to delete it, I would be grateful.
I'm really not sure what you mean please explain. Are you trying to imply that Miguel Cotto has some sort of amazing 1/day punch?
FireLance
Legend
I was asking what you thought of using fatigue or overstraining to explain why you need to have an extended rest in between using certain maneuvers. Or, as I said in post #6:
I personally think that the most important assumption that has to break down is that if it's martial, it must be repeatable. For example, one of the standard explanations for why a low-level barbarian is unable to rage more than once per day is that he somehow fatigues himself after his first rage, and is unable to reach the same state until he rests. He might get angry, but the emotion of anger is quite different from the mental and physical state of rage.
So similarly, in 4e, what if martial daily abilities represent such a supreme effort on the part of the character that he needs to rest before he can do it again? Perhaps certain muscles are overstrained, or he is fatigued in some way after he pulls off an exploit, so much so that he can't do exactly the same thing again until he has had some rest. He might attempt it, but his concentration, timing or balance will always be a little off, and in game terms, this could be represented by a lesser at-will or encounter ability (if he has an appropriate one available).
AtomicPope
Hero
Actually if you read what I had written Cotto's Left Hook is an encounter power (at least once per round). But he's also the Demigod of Welterweights and has access to Divine Miracle (PHB 175)
I noticed you're choosing to ignore Ryo Chonan's leg scissor take down
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Actually if you read what I had written Cotto's Left Hook is an encounter power (at least once per round). But he's also the Demigod of Welterweights and has access to Divine Miracle (PHB 175)
I noticed you're choosing to ignore Ryo Chonan's leg scissor take down
Sorry I don't watch nor am I the slightest bit interested in MMA, but I am a huge (HUGE) fan of the sweet science. So please keep it simple for me and stick to boxing.
I suppose this also makes me a bit of sports grognard lol.
FireLance
Legend
Possibly not an ordinary left hook - that wouldn't be particularly draining. In fact, I'd venture to say that most of us will have about as much experience with martial dailies as we have with arcane spells. A left hook is not a daily - it's a basic attack, or maybe an at-will. A tremendously powerful punch - one that leaves you with sore knuckles and a slightly pulled bicep - that comes close to a daily. Or at least, that's how I would envision brute strike working, and why you need to give your body time to recover before you can do it again. Same with villian's menace - focusing so much attention on a single opponent and reacting quickly to take advantage of the gaps in his defences is mentally and physically tiring. You just can't focus yourself and move as quickly to do the same to another opponent until you've rested.
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GnomeWorks
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The condition is that he can't use that ability until he rests, maybe?
