Is there any way to get Dungeon without Insider?

[ProfessorCirno]

Wizards is shooting themselves in the foot by forcing DDI and Dungeon/Dragon to be bought together. With how trustworthy people find their online capabilities (namely, how UNtrustworthy they find them) and amny other reasons, a lot of people have been turned off from DDI but still want the magazines. However, I'd wager most of them are far more likely to just skip it altogether then buy both for the sake of one.

 

[Alzrius]

Anyone know what an annual (or monthly) subscription to Dungeon and Dragon cost at the end of thier print run?

It was about $90 for both magazines for one year.

 

[Shemeska]

Wizards is shooting themselves in the foot by forcing DDI and Dungeon/Dragon to be bought together.

If they don't allow the magazines to purchased on their own (like I'd prefer to be an option), I strongly suspect that they're going to be plagued by monthly siterips of the magazine pdfs showing up in various filesharing networks. I can't speak to how much that sort of thing impacted sales of physical books, but for a product that's only electronic, it might become a much bigger problem, and one I'm not sure that WotC is fully equipped to stamp out.

 

[doctorhook]

It was about $90 for both magazines for one year.

For what it's worth, it was also $10 CAD/issue and nearly impossible to find on the newsstand. (Read: bloody ripoff.)

 

[Entropi]

mod edit: Yes, you did say it, and we don't appreciate you being coy about it. EN World does not condone or support copyright infringement. Please don't advocate such activities on this site. Thank you.[/jcolor]

 

[doctorhook]

The Dragon/Dungeon PDFs will likely all be on bittorrent. Or something. Did I say that? Nope, I didn't.

Late.

Why not support the company whose game you play? Either you like the product and ought to support it, or you don't and shouldn't play; anything other than those two options, and you're a thief.

(Fork this thread if you want to respond; don't derail.)

 

[Alzrius]

(Fork this thread if you want to respond; don't derail.)

Don't you think you should have followed your own advice before making that post?

 

[ProfessorCirno]

Late.

Why not support the company whose game you play? Either you like the product and ought to support it, or you don't and shouldn't play; anything other than those two options, and you're a thief.

Because, as in the case of the OP (see how I'm linking it to the OP like that?), they don't WANT to pay extra money for DDI. They're forced to buy products they DON'T want in order to get a product they DO want. It's thievery of the legal corporate kind - by forcing customers to buy products, they're no more moral then the ones getting things off rapidshare.

 

[mudbunny]

Because, as in the case of the OP (see how I'm linking it to the OP like that?), they don't WANT to pay extra money for DDI. They're forced to buy products they DON'T want in order to get a product they DO want.

Ermmm, no.

As I said above. The last information that WotC has released says that Dungeon and Dragon will be available for sale as individual .pdfs.

 

[MerricB]

It was about $90 for both magazines for one year.

Or double that if you were in Australia. And the magazines arrived two-three months late, if at all.

(Quadruple that for newstand prices).

Cheers!