Why do people hate Elfkind?

[Leontodon]

I thing the problem is that many has been written concerning rpg elves but they are still not understood. Many players just tend to see the pros about elves but the have strong disadvantages (based on Tolkien and Folk-Fiction). Just look into the Silmarillion for example. Yep they are strong, beautyful, skilled craftsman to the point that they are rather artists and yep the live for ever, BUT they have a destiny and they know about it. Theirs are tragic fates and dangerous oaths. To me elves are something like classical greek tragedy characters.

The Problem is the player has to roleplay this air of melancholy that surrounds them instead of just saying:" lawl Im good with a bow and Legolas is my uncle."

I also dislike that they feel like hippies if your following their description and few persons really like Hippies (those hypocrits).

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

What what what? No more Ellistrae?! But how can you get rid of a goddess of Naked Elves Dancing in Moonlight?!

I am sad.

Give the niche to Lolth! Seriously, why do we need naked drow in the game? Do they advance the plot? Are they giving people something they can't find free on the internet?

I hated Eilistraee because she was a good drow goddess, when there were no evil elven deities. Drizzt became good aligned without divine influence, when he was still a unique character, and Eilistraee seemed designed to make that happen with far more characters, each with a much shorter backstory.

 

[EATherrian]

1. Elf fanboys are the most annoying creatures on earth- makes you want to hate all over the elves.

2. To me personally, elves rub me completely the wrong way. They are flighty, capricious, highly emotional, self-important, self-absorbed, and condescending towards others. I've never seen elves presented in any campaign setting in such a way that they wouldn't be more appealing as spitted and roasting over an orc campfire.

3. Elves are tired and OLD. Everyone and his brother used to play elves, and they are always done the same way in every setting (yes, even Eberron elves are the same insufferable twits).

Oddly enough, I LOVE dwarves. Maybe its because I admire the traits of the dwarves, and the RP possibilities of dwarves aren't so stilted or elitist fanboy power/adulation fantasies.

And why don't I "fix" elves? I've tried, but the bastards keep reproducing anyways.

Hmmm. Anti-Elf ideology from a being named Gothmog.

 

[EATherrian]

If only that were true.

Two words: Valley Elf.

Valley Elves were, thankfully, quite limited in their scope.

 

[Rechan]

Give the niche to Lolth!

The niche of good drow?

Actually, I thought the "Evil Elf" Deity was Lolth. But then, any evil elf (female) became a Banshee, so maybe there were just few evil elves.

We need naked elves, yes.

I actually hated Drizzt and liked Eilistraee. E had the whole "Good Drow" without all the, well, ANGST.

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

The niche of good drow?

The niche of dancing naked female drow.

Actually, I thought the "Evil Elf" Deity was Lolth. But then, any evil elf (female) became a Banshee, so maybe there were just few evil elves.

Umm... right. "Elves are Better". I can't picture any evil uptight moon elf worshipping Lolth. They become atheists instead.

I actually hated Drizzt and liked Eilistraee. E had the whole "Good Drow" without all the, well, ANGST.

I saw E as being derivative. Very derivative. As in "here's a whole clutch of "good drow" heroes" derivative. There's a TV tropes wiki term for that --> "Follow the Leader".

 

[Monkey Boy]

I hate elves because they are consistantly pitched as the race that is 'better than you'. I always root for the underdog. In the groups I game with they are often roleplayed as arrogant and occasionally racial supremists. It's kind of like kender, paladins or lawful good. Elves baggage is easy to abuse and annoying players will do so.

I hate elves!

 

[Rechan]

The niche of dancing naked female drow.

Because her schtick is leather domme drow.

Umm... right. "Elves are Better". I can't picture any evil uptight moon elf worshipping Lolth. They become atheists instead.

Then perhaps V... uh... the male drow god, the one of thieves and assassins and gender equality.

But then, I don't like racial pantheons.

I saw E as being derivative. Very derivative. As in "here's a whole clutch of "good drow" heroes" derivative. There's a TV tropes wiki term for that --> "Follow the Leader".

This is me shrugging.

 

[The Little Raven]

Y'know, speaking of letters and whatnot; am I the only one who actually would kinda like to "un-Tolkien" the word a bit and say elfs and elfin rather than elves and elven?

Nitpick: Elvish is Tolkein, Elven is D&D.

 

[lutecius]

1. Elf fanboys are the most annoying creatures on earth- makes you want to hate all over the elves.

2. To me personally, elves rub me completely the wrong way. They are flighty, capricious, highly emotional, self-important, self-absorbed, and condescending towards others. I've never seen elves presented in any campaign setting in such a way that they wouldn't be more appealing as spitted and roasting over an orc campfire.

3. Elves are tired and OLD. Everyone and his brother used to play elves, and they are always done the same way in every setting (yes, even Eberron elves are the same insufferable twits).

Oddly enough, I LOVE dwarves. Maybe its because I admire the traits of the dwarves, and the RP possibilities of dwarves aren't so stilted or elitist fanboy power/adulation fantasies.

Funnily enough, most dwarves i’ve seen in play were the same old crude, grumpy to downright sociopathic drunks.
Interestingly enough, most dwarf fanboys i've met were actually short, unwashed, socially challenged fatbeards or intolerant, tubby boozers.
(not implying every dwarf player is either of those, that’s just my experience )

That's no longer true. The French are now "Eladrin."

They usually have better taste. Few French people I know would wear those garish colours or long, flowing robes and hair.

I don't understand the elf-hate, I've just always wanted to have relations with them, especially drow tranny ones.

This is becoming an obsession Are you pulling a Hong or something?