"Holding the Charge"
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Leif
Adventurer
But, After more thought...
I still agree with the general idea of my previous ruling, but now want to change some small deails to make it better for pcs:
a) The discharge of the energy (of a 'held charge') cannot happen accidentally, but must be a puposeful discharge by the caster/wand-wielder,
b) Loss of consciousness of the caster erases any charges that are being held, (this ruling negates most of the advantage sorceres have over wizards in this regard) and
c) If a held charge is not used or otherwise lost before the caster next casts a spell or prepares spells for the day, then the held charge is lost as soon as the next casting begins or the first new spell is memorized.
These three rulings also apply to a held charge from a wand or other device.
I still agree with the general idea of my previous ruling, but now want to change some small deails to make it better for pcs:
a) The discharge of the energy (of a 'held charge') cannot happen accidentally, but must be a puposeful discharge by the caster/wand-wielder,
b) Loss of consciousness of the caster erases any charges that are being held, (this ruling negates most of the advantage sorceres have over wizards in this regard) and
c) If a held charge is not used or otherwise lost before the caster next casts a spell or prepares spells for the day, then the held charge is lost as soon as the next casting begins or the first new spell is memorized.
These three rulings also apply to a held charge from a wand or other device.
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KerlanRayne
Explorer
So does that mean we can cast a touch spell before going to sleep and have it ready to use in case we get ambushed again in the night? 
Ashtagon
Adventurer
Personally, I rule that any such spell held "in hand" is dissipated harmlessly when the caster loses consciousness for any reason.
On an unrelated note, I also rule that spells with a duration of permanent actually have a duration equal to (caster level squared) weeks. Otherwise, we'd eventually see the universe lit up like a Christmas tree with continual light spells.
On an unrelated note, I also rule that spells with a duration of permanent actually have a duration equal to (caster level squared) weeks. Otherwise, we'd eventually see the universe lit up like a Christmas tree with continual light spells.
Leif
Adventurer
Thanks, Ashtagon! Good idea about the loss of consciousness!
Sorry, I can't agree with your treatment of permanent spells. As a player, I think Continual Light is just TOO cool to mess with! Plus... I just LIKE Christmas trees! hehehe
How do you rule for spells that have had Permanency applied to them? Does that change things?
Sorry, I can't agree with your treatment of permanent spells. As a player, I think Continual Light is just TOO cool to mess with! Plus... I just LIKE Christmas trees! hehehe
How do you rule for spells that have had Permanency applied to them? Does that change things?
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Leif
Adventurer
reiteration
But, After more thought:
I still agree with the general idea of my previous ruling, but now want to change some small deails to make it better for pcs:
a) The discharge of the energy (of a 'held charge') cannot happen accidentally, but must be a puposeful discharge by the caster/wand-wielder,
b) Loss of consciousness of the caster (including sleep) erases any charges that are being held, (this ruling negates most of the advantage sorcerers have over wizards in this regard. <-- I meant something by this sentence when I wrote it, but darned if I know what in the world it was now!) and
c) If a held charge is not used or otherwise lost before the caster next casts a spell or prepares spells for the day, then the held charge is lost as soon as the next casting begins or the first new spell is memorized.
These three rulings also apply to a held charge from a wand or other device. (See the Whirtlestaffs Wizards Academy midnight encounter with the trolls at the beginning of the game for an example of what I mean by this.)
But, After more thought:
I still agree with the general idea of my previous ruling, but now want to change some small deails to make it better for pcs:
a) The discharge of the energy (of a 'held charge') cannot happen accidentally, but must be a puposeful discharge by the caster/wand-wielder,
b) Loss of consciousness of the caster (including sleep) erases any charges that are being held, (this ruling negates most of the advantage sorcerers have over wizards in this regard. <-- I meant something by this sentence when I wrote it, but darned if I know what in the world it was now!) and
c) If a held charge is not used or otherwise lost before the caster next casts a spell or prepares spells for the day, then the held charge is lost as soon as the next casting begins or the first new spell is memorized.
These three rulings also apply to a held charge from a wand or other device. (See the Whirtlestaffs Wizards Academy midnight encounter with the trolls at the beginning of the game for an example of what I mean by this.)
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Ashtagon
Adventurer
(agree with your entire 'reiteration' post)
Regarding permanency, I allow that to be truly permanent, barring dispels and the like. I just want to avoid the industrial revolution that would be inevitable if every low-level caster were to churn out continual lights and selling them for fun and profit. permanency is a high-level spell, and so it will be sufficiently rare that it would cause the same issues.
Regarding permanency, I allow that to be truly permanent, barring dispels and the like. I just want to avoid the industrial revolution that would be inevitable if every low-level caster were to churn out continual lights and selling them for fun and profit. permanency is a high-level spell, and so it will be sufficiently rare that it would cause the same issues.
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