4E value < 3E value

[Fifth Element]

OK, so paying more for less is a feature of the new approach. noted.

Please. There is more to layout than squeezing as much text as possible into every single space. Less words? Maybe. Less easy to read? No. So we're talking about paying more for more. More ease of use.

 

[The Little Raven]

OK, so paying more for less is a feature of the new approach. noted.

I'm paying for the ability to read without eye strain because of tiny, cramped text that they attempt to squeeze into any available space or being constantly annoyed by an overly busy design style.

 

[Rechan]

Don't get me wrong, the core set--especially at the Amazon price--was great value; but I think WotC pulled a bit of a fast one when they split the FRCS into two books, when one book with smaller text would have been dandy. $70 list for both? Why not $50 for one big book? Seeing that I'd only be mining the book for ideas, I couldn't bring myself to even spend the Amazon $18 on the Player's Guide.

They're only putting out 3:
Setting DM Book (Monsters)
Setting PC book (Feats, Classes, Rituals/Powers, Paragon Paths)
Setting Adventure.

Compare that to $20-30 a-piece for:
The Setting Core Book
3-6 Setting Area Books
The Setting Magic Book
The Setting Religion Book
The Setting Monster Book
The Setting Good Guy Book
The Setting Villain Book
The Setting Ancient Periods/Lost Stuff Book
1-3 Setting Adventures

And it's the 4e books trying to milk your money?

Besides, I must confess that for all the words in the 3e books, I didn't have a lot of use for the content. There wasn't all that much there for me. On the other hand, I think I'd get a whole lot more use out of the Adventurer's Vault, or the Swordmage/Genasi/Paragon Paths.

All of the above having PrCs, Feats, Magical Items, Spells, and Monsters in them.

This is why I appreciate all of the player info being sequestered into one book compared to having to shuffle through five different books because I have a feat from this one, a feat from that one, two spells from two different books, and a magical item out of the fifth book. So I might be paying for less page count, but organization well than makes up for it.

 

[Scribble]

OK, so paying more for less is a feature of the new approach. noted.

Lots of words isn't nessesarily a feature.

If you can give me the information I need in a concise, easy to use format, I am happy.

 

[Wormwood]

OK, so paying more for less is a feature of the new approach. noted.

Considering that 4e packs more value for my games in less text? Fine with me.

Personally, I don't miss paying for useless bloat.

 

[WhatGravitas]

OK, so paying more for less is a feature of the new approach. noted.

Word count doesn't measure value.

Cheers, LT.

 

[Rechan]

I find the most legitimate complaint about the value or content of the 4e books is that stuff is missing.

Firearm rules. Various iconic monsters. Familiars, illusions, summoning. Artifacts.

The fact that you have to wait for that stuff, that it's missing from the books? That's the real problem.

 

[GnomeWorks]

...there really is no point for this conversation to exist. Nothing against the OP, but a topic like this was doomed from the start to be cast to a fiery death by the 4e zealots.

 

[D'karr]

...there really is no point for this conversation to exist. Nothing against the OP, but a topic like this was doomed from the start to be cast to a fiery death by the 4e zealots.

That should be High Sycophants.

 

[PeelSeel2]

I think I will buy very little books beyond core and pick them all up in subscription to DNDInsider.....if that part ever materializes.