Dragonstar 4e?

[Negflar2099]

I've asked this question before but when I saw the 4e sci-fi thread I was tempted to ask it again (and I didn't want to derail that thread). Basically does anyone know if there's any hope for a 4e Dragonstar? I know as rule set it had its problems but the setting was so good. If it's possible I think a 4e Dragonstar would be incredible. Is there hope or should I just finally give up?

 

[Angel Tarragon]

Fantasy Flight abandoned the property before 3.5 came out. Unless another company buys the rights for it I highly doubt any other product for the line will see print/pdf.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

I've asked this question before but when I saw the 4e sci-fi thread I was tempted to ask it again (and I didn't want to derail that thread). Basically does anyone know if there's any hope for a 4e Dragonstar? I know as rule set it had its problems but the setting was so good. If it's possible I think a 4e Dragonstar would be incredible. Is there hope or should I just finally give up?

Doesn't look too good, as Reveille described.

 

[Ranger REG]

Fantasy Flight abandoned the property before 3.5 came out. Unless another company buys the rights for it I highly doubt any other product for the line will see print/pdf.

What if someone were to make a clone of that setting? It's not like Fantasy Flight Games are the only one to come up with the idea of mixing spaceships with dragons into the setting elements.

Then again, they did come up with a cool name, more likely it is already trademarked.

 

[Aries_Omega]

What If?

What if one of three things happen....for that matter has anyone heard of this happening with Dragonstar...if so I'd like to see the material.

1. Fan Convert to 4E - Under the new GSL can someone do that? Not for profit but for fun?
2. Fan Convert to 3.5 - Just a small update and all? Doesn't seem too hard.
3. Fan Convert to Pathfinder (AD&D 3.75) - This is the route I'd like to see myself.

I have really taken to the Pathfinder and cherry picked some things for it. I am waiting for a few products to come out and have my players play with the changed rules more before we change over whole hog.

Dragonstar is one of those setting I am itching to run. I hinted at it existing in my own campaign and all but they have yet to go offworld and all.

 

[Ranger REG]

What if one of three things happen....for that matter has anyone heard of this happening with Dragonstar...if so I'd like to see the material.

1. Fan Convert to 4E - Under the new GSL can someone do that? Not for profit but for fun?
2. Fan Convert to 3.5 - Just a small update and all? Doesn't seem too hard.
3. Fan Convert to Pathfinder (AD&D 3.75) - This is the route I'd like to see myself.

I have really taken to the Pathfinder and cherry picked some things for it. I am waiting for a few products to come out and have my players play with the changed rules more before we change over whole hog.

Dragonstar is one of those setting I am itching to run. I hinted at it existing in my own campaign and all but they have yet to go offworld and all.

I'm more interested in options #2 and #3, though other gamers would prefer #1. Ideally, I prefer Convert to d20 Modern. It seems more at home with that rules (or Star Wars Saga Edition rules ... minus the Jedi and Force).

 

[Lord Xtheth]

Hm?

How does one aquire the rights to old (extinct?) games anyhow?

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I think Dragon star 4e could be great...imagin the ship to ship combat as...A skill challange.


DM: The enimy ship is fireing on you
Player 1 (Captain) "Sheilds UP" {ooc: can I use my warlord command strike to give someone else a chance...you know As I give the order... DM: ok but only this once...
Player 3 (Tacticle officer) I roll computer use and activate the defences...I rolled a 12 +9 is ...21?
DM: One success your sheilds are holding they are still puring alot of fire power on to you though
Player 2 (Helms men) I roll Piolt...I rolled a 3...use my piolt feat to reroll that...yea 11 +10 is 21!!! "Taking avasive manuvers sir"
DM Nice start to success no failurs
Player 3 (tac off) I retuern fire... I rolled a nat 20...crit
DM Wow way to go 3 successes...as your ship flips through the barrage of fire you shot back, crippling there manuvering thrusters...
Player 4 (Communications) I hail them and offer to except there surrender...Intimadate roll... 5 +8 is 13???
DM No now we have 3 success to 1 fail...they let you eat static and start to hammer your aft sheilds are down to 50%
Player 5 (Engenner) "I'm rerotting power to those sheilds" repair...shot nat 1 +11 is only 12...
DM You over load the generaters, normaly backups would kick right in, but the sheilds are to compramized...your sheilds are down...3/2 not looking good

Player 1: I make a History roll...what do I know of the tactics this ship is useing? I rolled a 19...I am in the 30's
DM Success...but only to help someone else apply a +2 to another member of the crew
Player 1 "Player 3 take the plus." "I see an opening...wait for my command then opening up on there underside..."
Player 2: I want to open our port air lock to depressuriz and push us into a spin...they wont see that comeing...
DM: Um...what...you mean like make yourself out of control on purpose???
Player 2: Yea but planing it out as a betteer evasion...
DM: Roll computer use I guess
Player 2: 19 total...
DM 4/2...those aliens didn't see that comeing...so way to go you get a few seconds to breath...
Player 3 Action point...Use player 1 tac presence then fire a corrdnated shot at the weak point he found.... then I follow it up with a presise shot taking out there aft guns...
DM OK...start with an attack with your +2 and your +3 from the tac lord...
Player 3: I rolled a 16...I total nailed it...
Dm Ok now make a Mechanics check to see if you can pin point those weapons...
Player 3: I rolled a 17...but it is untrained so I missed the DC 20...
DM: 5/3 still got a chance
Player 4: I am going to get fake a broad cast from hyperspace saying back up is on the way...Bluff... I made a 24
DM 6/3 you are getting out of the woods...they apper to be regrouping in a defencive postur..still fireing
Player 5: I want to jurry rig the shields back up...mechanics...I made a 30
DM 7/3 sheild are back at 35%...but holding it looks like you might just make it
Player 1: "put them on speaker...'If you surrender you will not be killed...you have 6 seconds' comm off" I roll intimadate...4 +9 13...man today is not the day for intimadation is it
DM: no it isn't but 4 failed before 8 success...you failed... One last shot rockes the ship as you start to lose those last bit of sheilds...one system failur cascaids to another...scanners...propulsion...weapons...life support. You are dead in the water... Now the pirats in the ship are going to board you......

 

[Ranger REG]

Hm?

How does one aquire the rights to old (extinct?) games anyhow?

Find the IP owner and ask. In the case of Dragonstar, the owner would be Fantasy Flight Games.

 

[Krensky]

What if one of three things happen....for that matter has anyone heard of this happening with Dragonstar...if so I'd like to see the material.

1. Fan Convert to 4E - Under the new GSL can someone do that? Not for profit but for fun?
2. Fan Convert to 3.5 - Just a small update and all? Doesn't seem too hard.
3. Fan Convert to Pathfinder (AD&D 3.75) - This is the route I'd like to see myself.

1. I don't think the GSL would stop you from doing so, but the fan site policy may. (I doubt it will, but stranger things have happened at sea.)

2. This has been done at least once. Dragonstar - Version 3.5

3. How hard this will be depends a lot on the final nature of 3.P. It will probably be no harder then updating to 3.5. The main things that come to mind would be converting the DS specific classes (maybe), races, and the domains.

Personally, I'll probably be spending some time converting it to SC2.0/MC next summer.