Dragon 370 - Invoker Preview

[Shroomy]

Its up.

D&D Invoker, Levels 1-3

 

[BarkingDeathSquirrel]

Well... that's certainly not what I was expecting. Wasn't expecting them to have more than cloth armor, nor would I have ever thought that holy symbols wouldn't be implements for them... huh.

 

[Hawke]

Not much summoning before level 3... and would be VERY easy to build one that ignored summoning. Wasn't expecting that, but it seems on par with Fighter stances. I wonder if there will be a single summon maximum and how other things might work - do they count as allies in every sense of the word?

Why is "Wall of Light" not a zone? Maybe I'm misunderstanding what the zone keyword is supposed to represent.

 

[DandD]

So the Invoker's a Controller? How do these invocations or spells or however they are called affect the battlefield?

 

[bert1000]

Hmm. Pretty different in fluff, but when I look at the powers and class features, not sure what their thing is suppose to be besides controller.

Maybe it's clearer with the full 1-30 levels...

 

[Rechan]

Chainmail? Damn. That actually is a shame. But it seems Divine characters always are about The Armor.

I dislike the fluff about Invokers being all old school, and all about Primordials vs. Gods; that's the first fluff I'd squash in my games. As I read though, I notice that the class has a warlock vibe to it, how close the individual is with the god. I could see this as the Divine version of the warlock, although I'm not sure how best to represent Invokers of the Fey, etc. It's easy for me to see specific ArchAngels giving Invokers power.

However, one thing is certaion: these guys scream Prophet, operating outside the church, with a direct link to their God.

I notice Channel Divinity doesn't say out loud "Hey, you. You have to pick ONe of these encounter abilities to use in an encounter". Also, Preserver's Rebuke doesn't scale with level.

Thunder of Judgement is badass.

None of the Dailies do it for me. However, the utilities are badass.

I notice that the Angel summoning doesn't actually have an AC or HP. It's more like a Flaming Sphere that can do OAs.

Something else that occurs to me. This class isn't as... well, it doesn't have any real "Wow" that the Druid and Wizard does. The druid has flexibility and finesse, the Wizard has cantrips and choice of dailies. This is rather vanilla, as class designs go.

 

[Nahat Anoj]

Not much summoning before level 3... and would be VERY easy to build one that ignored summoning. Wasn't expecting that, but it seems on par with Fighter stances. I wonder if there will be a single summon maximum and how other things might work - do they count as allies in every sense of the word?

Why is "Wall of Light" not a zone? Maybe I'm misunderstanding what the zone keyword is supposed to represent.

Zones are basically lingering area of effects. Most of the zones I see in the PHB last until the end of the encounter. A wall isn't necessarily a zone, it has more in common with a blast or burst effect. Most walls seem to last only as long as they are maintained.

 

[bert1000]

Something else that occurs to me. This class isn't as... well, it doesn't have any real "Wow" that the Druid and Wizard does. The druid has flexibility and finesse, the Wizard has cantrips and choice of dailies. This is rather vanilla, as class designs go.

Yeah, that's what I meant by "their thing". Class features are Channel Div and ritual casting, which others get. And then a generic slide or +.

What's the archtype they are trying to fill here?

 

[thecasualoblivion]

Just looking at levels 1-3, this class hits harder than the Wizard or Druid do with At-Wills and encounters. The Wizard wishes he had At-Wills like this. As was said above, the Dailies are less flashy than what the Wizard gets. I can't see chosing something other than the summon.

 

[Rechan]

Zones are basically lingering area of effects. Most of the zones I see in the PHB last until the end of the encounter. A wall isn't necessarily a zone, it has more in common with a blast or burst effect. Most walls seem to last only as long as they are maintained.

You mean like Stinking Cloud, which is 'sustain minor' but still is a zone?

Although, looking at 'Wall of Fog', it is also not a zone, and is another sustain minor wall.