D&D Deluxe Editions: Smudging ink?

jdrakeh

Front Range Warlock
Do the deluxe editions of D&D have the issue with the smudging ink? I ask, because Amazon is running a pretty good deal on all of them and there apparently aren't any reprints of the standard books (with errata) just around the corner.

Also, please, if you don't own the books and haven't used/examined them firsthand, don't speculate here about the issues. Finally, if you just want to tell me I'm wasting my money because 4e sucks, save it for never — 'cause I'm not hearing that anymore.
 

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I don't know about the ink, but on a kind of related note: My collectors bug was pressing me to get the Deluxe books, even though I'm no longer playing 4e, but the new errata has me wondering if I should bother. Any idea how much the new release changes mechanically?
 

I don't know about the ink, but on a kind of related note: My collectors bug was pressing me to get the Deluxe books, even though I'm no longer playing 4e, but the new errata has me wondering if I should bother. Any idea how much the new release changes mechanically?
Fear not, the latest (01/09) errata are included in the deluxe editions. I checked the PH & the DMG myself.

(I did however find a new formatting error in the shaded box on p61 of the deluxe DMG: "Lightly Obscured" should be bolded, not italicised; the actual text matches the revision, though).

As for smudging, I couldn't tell. Never had a book smudge on me.
 



You're wasting your money becuase 4E sucks - BUT, if you insist on getting them, check out e-bay as one vendor is offering the deluxe monster manual for under $30 as a "Buy it now".

Edit - here's a link.
 

Still so. I downloaded the file this very morning and checked; Said file identifies itself as "Updated 01/09", "Update Version 4", which is why I wrote 01/09. Apologies accepted.
They were never offered.

To the point, unless your books were printed in the last three days they are indeed, out of date. For if nothing was changed, why update the files? (4 times it seems) My question was how much has changed and is it critical to game play.

jdrakeh, I do apologize to you. I did not mean to derail your thread, I honestly though it was a simple enough question.
 

They were never offered.

To the point, unless your books were printed in the last three days they are indeed, out of date. For if nothing was changed, why update the files? (4 times it seems) My question was how much has changed and is it critical to game play.
So, we're going to do things that way, are we. How about we trust the person who has the books and checked them, over the person who doesn't, shall we?

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But, since you've already demonstrated not taking my word for anything, and considering I consider it my duty to fight misinformation wherever I encounter it, allow me to present some more compelling evidence:


Consulting UpdatePH.pdf, we see 4 entries marked "Version 4 (1/09)" in the change tracker.

E.g. Page 122 Shadow Stride [Revision]
[sblock]Shadow Stride [Revision]
Player’s Handbook, page 122
Replace the Effect line with the following:
Effect: You must be hidden to use this power. You can move your speed and must end your movement in a space where you can remain hidden. Then make a Stealth check with no penalty for moving. If the check succeeds, you remain hidden during the movement, even if you have no cover or concealment during it.

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[/sblock]E.g. Page 137 Thirsting Maw [Addition]
[sblock]Thirsting Maw [Addition]
Player’s Handbook, page 137
Add the “Healing” keyword.

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Consulting UpdateDMG.pdf, we see 3 entries marked "Version 4 (1/09)" in the change tracker.

E.g. Page 37 Blocked Vision [Revision]
[sblock]Blocked Vision [Revision]
Dungeon Master’s Guide, page 37
Replace the second paragraph with the following text:
Blocked vision provides an opportunity for characters or creatures to make Stealth checks to try to become hidden. Simply being out of sight doesn’t make a character or a creature hidden.

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[/sblock]E.g. Page 200 Barstomun Strongbeard [Revision]
[sblock]Barstomun Strongbeard [Revision]
Dungeon Master’s Guide, page 200
Replace the dodge and throw attack power with the following text:
Dodge and Throw (immediate reaction, when an enemy misses Barstomun with a melee attack; encounter)
+7 vs. Fortitude; slide the target 1 square and knock it prone.

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[/sblock]
Consulting UpdateMM.pdf, we see 6 entries marked "Version 4 (1/09)" in the change tracker.

E.g. Page 151 Night Hag [Revision]
[sblock]Night Hag [Revision]
Monster Manual, page 151
In the night hag’s statistics block, replace “no save” in the wave of sleep power with “save ends”.

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[/sblock]E.g. Page 230 Shadar-kai Gloomblade [Revision]
[sblock]Shadar-kai Gloomblade [Revision]
Monster Manual, page 230
In veil of shadows, replace the first sentence with “The shadar-kai gloomblade turns invisible until the end of his turn and moves his speed.”
Replace “shadowmail” in the Equipment line with “chainmail.”

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[/sblock]Q.E.D.

jdrakeh, I do apologize to you. I did not mean to derail your thread, I honestly though it was a simple enough question.
It was. You just seems unwilling to accept the answer I provided: that the deluxe edition of the 4E core rulebooks are not out of date at all.

More on topic: after deliberate attempts with dry fingers, tap water and saliva, I remain unable to smudge any part of the book.
 
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