Pathfinder 1E Paizo Licenses

[cangrejoide]

The only "shocking" thing in this whole post is how far from right you are and the fact that you decided to make a snide comment without researching you're facts... way to go!

P.S. You won't even have to cut n paste it since Paizo is planning to set up an online tool to access it.

The real question is will Mongoose publishing make a Pocket Pathfinder book?

 

[kenmarable]

I'm surprised no one has called out Section 11 of the Compatibility License.

11. Licensed Product
You agree to send at least one copy of each licensed product to Paizo Publishing...

It's all just a scam by the Paizo staff to get free products!!


Fun times... I signed the revised GSL and the Pathfinder Compatibility License in the same day. For the first time in over a year, I'm really jazzed about writing again - especially since I can actually release the same* products under 3.5/PFRPG and 4e now!

Woohoo!


* Obviously converted to different rule systems and available licensed content, but you know what I mean.

 

[Nikosandros]

Translation: Don't do to us what we did to D&D.

I think that you might be confusing two different things. Most of the pathfinder RPG will be released under the OGL. If you want to make a SF game out of it, you'll be able.

The Pathfinder license is something additional that will enable publishers to claim compatibility with the brand. For this they are asking you to make something that's actually compatible with the game... sounds reasonable to me.

 

[Nikosandros]

OMG! They can change this at any time, or even cancel it! Let's all freak out about this completly standard contract clause and run around like headless chickens for awhile like we did about the same clause in the GSL...

However, if the license is terminated by Paizo (i.e. not because of a breach) the remaining printed stock needs not be destroyed.

 

[Nellisir]

I'm out of my depth here, but I confident someone will correct me.

But aren't Pathfinder, M&M, Etherscope, all examples of stand alone games?

Yes. And none of them use the d20 license.

The Pathfinder rules are free for use under the OGL, just like M&M. The Pathfinder IP is controlled under the Pathfinder licenses. You can use the PF crunch + your fluff&crunch = your game. You cannot use PF crunch + PF IP (ie, the name Pathfinder) + your fluff & crunch = Your game.

 

[DaveMage]

I'm surprised no one has called out Section 11 of the Compatibility License.

It's all just a scam by the Paizo staff to get free products!!

Well, Lisa Stevens is a collector. This way she doesn't need to worry if she misses something.

 

[Kichwas]

The only thing that would give me pause is the "adult content" condition. Does that mean profanity is out? Mild profanity? Where's the line?

(Or is it like porn - you know it when you see it?)

Probably just a preemptive avoidance of a Pathfinder book of erotic fantasy...

If you want respect, the last thing you want is to be associated with porn. On the other hand, if you want commercial success, the first thing you want is to be associated with porn...

 

[Mark]

Probably just a preemptive avoidance of a Pathfinder book of erotic fantasy...

That might be a path best left unfound.

 

[carmachu]

Probably just a preemptive avoidance of a Pathfinder book of erotic fantasy...

If you want respect, the last thing you want is to be associated with porn. On the other hand, if you want commercial success, the first thing you want is to be associated with porn...

But wait! If you do make pathfinder book of erotic fantasy, Paizo will terminate your license. But you dont have to destroy your back stock, and can sell off the remainder, right?

 

[Kichwas]

Differences:
Adult Content
GSL: That currently means nothing that

PFRPGCL: Paizo pretty much defines it as nothing that

GSL: No sex. No gore. No racism.
Pathfinder: No "adult content," offensive, or inappropriate for minors.
- technically, Pathfinder is more restrictive in that it is vaguer - and thus could capture more, but it allows-by-omission racist content, such as the d20 Solid! (blaxploitation) book that came out a few years ago. It might also allow gore - which in the US is not seen as adult. Note however that by some European standards it might allow mild nudity but not allow gore or (in a very few places) racism...
- The problem with vagueness - what does it mean to whom?

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GSL: You get "Dungeons and Dragons" on the back cover of your product, a name that's been around for over 30 years and is widely recognized.
PFRPGCL: Pathfinder as a brand has been around for nearly 2 years. Its a very strong up and coming brand name, but ... it's not "Dungeons and Dragons" (yet).

MY first instinct is to say the D&D brand itself has no major meaning outside of people already in the hobby, at this point. But I'm not as certain of that as I'd like to be. Completely useless for a larger perspective anecdote: Two weeks ago I was in a game store and a woman about my age walks in and asks the store rep if they "still make that D&D game" she knew of as a kid. The rough story being she wanted to get her 13 year old to stop playing online computer games, and instead play something he had to use "reading and social skills' for.

(We'll ignore the very social aspect of an MMO for a second here, that was her point to make, not mine.)