Forked Thread: 3.5 Discounts (FREE TOOLBOX)

[jim pinto]

I'm missing it. Zombie ferrets too horrible for common minds or something? Liches and other long lived entities, like mummies, would probably have these things about and where whole cities have fallen to necromantic plauge, they should be simply another part of the former live of the city now animated by the dark powers.

spectre fox, premiers tonight on bravo



i'm just busting chops

i'm less interested in undead pets and more interested in undead animal companions… when is WOTC doing that book?

 

[Connorsrpg]

Whoa, am I glad I found this (through Joe's review).

This sounds like just the book for me. S I have stated often, I love randomness. I have done heaps of these charts myself. Good to see Ghostwind Steve here too as I used to send them to him for d20zines website.

I MUST get my hands on this. (See if many of the ones I have written are in there).

As for suggestions: does the book have random place descriptions? I always wanted to do aseries of charts to describe/generate rivers/streams. You know, how wide, fast vs slow, rapids vs calm, muddy vs clear, unobstructed vs weeds, flooded vs dry, etc

Plenty of other short terrains have been done (and I believe were in some of the last print Dungeons) but rivers are everywhere on maps. Easy descriptions for players would be cool.

As I said, haven't seen what is in there, but intend to.


C

 

[jim pinto]

As for suggestions: does the book have random place descriptions?

Tons

I always wanted to do aseries of charts to describe/generate rivers/streams. You know, how wide, fast vs slow, rapids vs calm, muddy vs clear, unobstructed vs weeds, flooded vs dry, etc

That was the first Toolbox. But some of that is covered again in this one. The essentials, like herbs.

 

[Connorsrpg]

Ok, so excuse my ignorance and inability to read the first 10 pages of the thread, but how many of the tables from the original Toolbox are in here (minus stats).

When you say they were in the first book does that mean they are in here too? I thought all tables were here, but minus the 3e stats?

C

 

[DM_Jeff]

Ok, so excuse my ignorance and inability to read the first 10 pages of the thread, but how many of the tables from the original Toolbox are in here (minus stats).

Very, very few. I think there are about 4-5 tables reproduced from the first book, because they were that good. Otherwise the book is new. We tackle the same subjects (and hundreds more) but expand on them and give more options.

So, for example, while the "civilization" chapter in the first Toolbox was about 45 pages, but nearly 25 of those were all stats, in Ultimate Toolbox the civilization section is over 100 pages, with NO stats.

In the first book we had 1 table called "crime and punishment". In Ultimate Toolbox we have prisoners, crimes 1 & 2, local criminal gangs, punishment 1 & 2, an essay on running fantasy criminal trials, types of trials, trial complications, sentencing, arbiters, etc.

While the first one helped you fill in the blanks on a city, Ultimate Toolbox lets you build a city from the first brick to its hundred-year history complete.

-DM Jeff

 

[jim pinto]

Very, very few. I think there are about 4-5 tables reproduced from the first book, because they were that good. Otherwise the book is new. We tackle the same subjects (and hundreds more) but expand on them and give more options.

So, for example, while the "civilization" chapter in the first Toolbox was about 45 pages, but nearly 25 of those were all stats, in Ultimate Toolbox the civilization section is over 100 pages, with NO stats.

In the first book we had 1 table called "crime and punishment". In Ultimate Toolbox we have prisoners, crimes 1 & 2, local criminal gangs, punishment 1 & 2, an essay on running fantasy criminal trials, types of trials, trial complications, sentencing, arbiters, etc.

While the first one helped you fill in the blanks on a city, Ultimate Toolbox lets you build a city from the first brick to its hundred-year history complete.

-DM Jeff

what jeff said

not to mention we REALLY fixed the pickpocket tables

they are 1000% better now

seriously

i'd eat off them

 

[Connorsrpg]

Thank you very much...seems I may have to get both, even though not a 3e player.

I have heaps of my own for city and realm creation too.

BUT, what about the rivers? Are rivers in the new one? And other 'natural' areas?

Cheers, C

 

[jim pinto]

Thank you very much...seems I may have to get both, even though not a 3e player.

I have heaps of my own for city and realm creation too.

BUT, what about the rivers? Are rivers in the new one? And other 'natural' areas?

Cheers, C

Yes

Wilderness and world building is covered in both books, in different ways. Toolbox one worries about how wide a river is. Ultimate Toolbox worries about where the river is.

Make sense?

 

[DM_Jeff]

Thank you very much...seems I may have to get both, even though not a 3e player.

You know what. I came to learn something. Dawn and jim and I created this Ultimate Toolbox with a lot of influence from 30 years of playing the D&D game. 4e has its strengths. Pathfinder caters to those of us with classic in our hearts. Warhammer has grit no one can top. Heck, give Tunnels and Trolls a nod. We're not here to recommend a game system. We're here to give you all the tools, inspiration and enthusiasm you need to run whatever fantasy roleplaying game makes you and your players happy and ready to roll dice and play.

Game on.

-DM Jeff

 

[jim pinto]

You know what. I came to learn something. Dawn and jim and I created this Ultimate Toolbox with a lot of influence from 30 years of playing the D&D game. 4e has its strengths. Pathfinder caters to those of us with classic in our hearts. Warhammer has grit no one can top. Heck, give Tunnels and Trolls a nod. We're not here to recommend a game system. We're here to give you all the tools, inspiration and enthusiasm you need to run whatever fantasy roleplaying game makes you and your players happy and ready to roll dice and play.

Game on.

-DM Jeff

Does it hurt my street cred to admit I don't even play D&D anymore and haven't in about six years?

Er. Um.

Forget you read that.