Weaning Off the Sauce

[hong]

For me, buying a WotC book feels wrong right now, so I'm holding off on it.

But it's also something I'm often COMPELLED to do, so I'm discussing it.

Heh. Well, you still have a week and a half for that feeling to subside.

 

[Korgoth]

Back to the freeware OD&D clones for me.

A fine choice!

Ultimately, D&D fans only have to put up with Whiz on the Customers as long as they choose to put up with them.

 

[Mallus]

Ultimately, D&D fans only have to put up with Whiz on the Customers as long as they choose to put up with them.

But, damn them, lately they've been selling stuff I like!

(and a free copy of something I don't like ain't much of a bargain )

 

[vagabundo]

Hmmm. Not sure I can get up enough outrage - or even a mild interest - to join in. I'm not affected by the PDF decision and I feel better served, as a customer of WOTC, than I did in the 3e era.

But I can understand how there recent events could raise the ire of others and totally support these kind of actions. Still, life is short, so try not to deny yourself too much as its pleasures can be few and far between.

 

[Remathilis]

But, damn them, lately they've been selling stuff I like!

(and a free copy of something I don't like ain't much of a bargain )

This.

I like the game 4e is. I'm not happy with the corporate policies the company who designed it has used.

Do I stand up for some ethical element that really doesn't affect me, or play the game I like?

 

[Remathilis]

I am curious. What kind of great 3PP support does Pathfinder have? Paizo's stuff is good, but with regards to Pathfinder, they aren't third party, but rather first party. I know NG will eventually do something, but aside from NG, who in the industry who makes great stuff have announced their official support for Pathfinder?

Ah, terminology problem.

Pathfinder IS third-party to the original developer (WotC). Taking 3.5, fixing a few bugs, streamlining things and giving it a new title doesn't make it a first-party title anymore than buying a house, fixing the roof, painting the walls and adding a garage makes you the original architect.

But, as a 3PP (compatible with 3.5 AND its own special-brew 3.5) its fantastic! And that means it is compatible (with conversion) with WotCs 1PP D&D stuff, all the back-catalog of various d20 supplements (from Goodman's DCCs to the Book of Arcane Might) but its still 3.5 based and unless there is some real innovative bug-fixing, its still going to have a lot of the things I DISLIKE about 3.5 along with the things I like (such as stacking rules, magic-as-silver-bullet, and high-level sluggishness in play).

I remain open-minded though. Moreso than I did a few months back...

 

[Twowolves]

I'm in complete agreement with you TwoWolves.

In five years of posting here, I think that's the first time anyone has said that.

*sniff sniff* I love you man!

 

[Odhanan]

I'm done with WotC in its current shape or form. I let go of current D&D with 4e, and now, I'm letting WotC go altogether. I want miniatures, I'll go to eBay. I want to play Star Wars? I'll grab my WEG Star Wars.

No more. It's over.

 

[Jack99]

Ah, terminology problem.

Pathfinder IS third-party to the original developer (WotC). Taking 3.5, fixing a few bugs, streamlining things and giving it a new title doesn't make it a first-party title anymore than buying a house, fixing the roof, painting the walls and adding a garage makes you the original architect.

But, as a 3PP (compatible with 3.5 AND its own special-brew 3.5) its fantastic! And that means it is compatible (with conversion) with WotCs 1PP D&D stuff, all the back-catalog of various d20 supplements (from Goodman's DCCs to the Book of Arcane Might) but its still 3.5 based and unless there is some real innovative bug-fixing, its still going to have a lot of the things I DISLIKE about 3.5 along with the things I like (such as stacking rules, magic-as-silver-bullet, and high-level sluggishness in play).

I remain open-minded though. Moreso than I did a few months back...

Okay, makes more sense then. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[smootrk]

well I left WotC upon the announcement of 4e with the sole exception of a PHB for when I cannot find a game otherwise to participate in.

My own tastes have moved back to roots, and so I use the Basic Fantasy Role-Playing Game system... which I must mention is absolutely freely downloadable as a PDF, as well as all the supporting materials. Lulu hardcopies are likewise available without profit to the copyright holder. Visit them here: Basic Fantasy Role-Playing Game

Good Riddance WotC