Granting a shift to a prone ally

[Nikosandros]

I think that with a strict interpretation of the rules, if you grant a free shift to a prone ally it goes wasted, since prone characters can't actually shift.

However, since shifting is a limited form of movement that doesn't cause OA, do you think it would be reasonable to allow the prone ally to stand up?

 

[Tuft]

I think that with a strict interpretation of the rules, if you grant a free shift to a prone ally it goes wasted, since prone characters can't actually shift.

However, since shifting is a limited form of movement that doesn't cause OA, do you think it would be reasonable to allow the prone ally to stand up?

Isn't that a DM judgment call, depending on the situation and in what way the shift is granted?

 

[Styracosaurus]

I think that the prone player should just be allowed a shift if someone else grants him one. He couldn't shift on his own, but an ally could help him. I would not allow him to just stand up.

 

[isd]

I don't think so.

When prone you need to use a move action to stand up. Shifting granted by a power is a free action not a move action. You can always house rule it, but I don't think so. Being knocked prone should be a noticeable threat to any PC, making any 'move like' action stand you up would nerf a lot of monsters. A kobold would love this ruling those shifty little munchkins.

 

[ChristopherA]

I agree that this would not be a reasonable house rule if you don't want to change the balance of the game. Prone is already one of the weaker conditions, no need to make it worse. And powers that let other people shift are not supposed to grant them other kinds of free move actions. The fact that prone people cannot shift is meant to be a tactical consideration for the characters to work around. If you want to let the prone guy shift, you can always hold your action until after he stands up.


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[the Jester]

I wouldn't do it.

 

[Nikosandros]

Thanks for the answers, you've convinced me.

 

[mach1.9pants]

You can be forced to move but ypu cannot shift

You can’t move from your space, although you can teleport, crawl, or be forced to move by a pull, a push, or a slide.

 

[Nikosandros]

You can be forced to move but ypu cannot shift

I never doubted that the rules worked that way... I merely asked opinions about changing them and I was convinced not to.

 

[mach1.9pants]

I never doubted that the rules worked that way... I merely asked opinions about changing them and I was convinced not to.

Aaaah sorry I misread your OP.