Why the beer hate? (Forked Thread: What are the no-goes...)

[JRRNeiklot]

Ok, then that might be a problem. I can only suggest you educate yourself.

Are you suggesting alcohol MAKES people act like an ass? I disagree. Again, I say blame the person not the alcohol, or the allergies, or the bad day he had at work. If you display poor behaviour at my games, I could care less WHY you did it. You are showing me and my players - and the rest of the household - a lack of respect. And I'm certainly not kicking a good player out of the group because he dared to open a beer.

 

[Bumbles]

for me, the social aspect of hanging around a table with a bunch of friends is just as important as the game itself... if a DM didn't trust me with a glass of wine, it'd be a major distraction.

And a DM saying "Well, Person A can do this, but Person B can't" in regards to personal behavior would be a major distraction to me. Heck, as the DM, it's confusing enough to keep the game's rules straight.

To put it another way, I'm not distrusting you, I'm choosing to not trust anyone. I find that to be far more fair.

 

[Lanefan]

A thought strikes:

How do you have a beer and pretzels game without the beer?

Or, to put it another way: for the no-drink crew, where do your games tend to fall on the serious-gonzo scale? Is there perhaps a correlation between willingness to allow alcohol and relative gonzo-ness of the game?

Lanefan

 

[Bumbles]

How do you have a beer and pretzels game without the beer?

Root beer or other non-alcoholic beer is acceptable.

 

[Rel]

I'll have a beer once in a while during the game. Especially now that it is at my home. Especially when I need a bottlecap to represent one of the bad guys on the battlemat.

 

[Lanefan]

To put it another way, I'm not distrusting you, I'm choosing to not trust anyone. I find that to be far more fair.

Assuming you're all friends outside the game, why not just choose to trust everyone and see how it goes? (and if you're not friends outside the game, why are you gaming together?)

Lanefan

 

[malraux]

And a DM saying "Well, Person A can do this, but Person B can't" in regards to personal behavior would be a major distraction to me. Heck, as the DM, it's confusing enough to keep the game's rules straight.

To put it another way, I'm not distrusting you, I'm choosing to not trust anyone. I find that to be far more fair.

As others have said, its odd to say that you don't trust people you hang out with.

And I'd say that person A and person B are both banned from being a jerk. That said, if B combined with alcohol is a problem, then ok, ban alcohol for everyone and possibly start working on an intervention.

 

[Bumbles]

Assuming you're all friends outside the game, why not just choose to trust everyone and see how it goes? (and if you're not friends outside the game, why are you gaming together?)

My decision came from experience. Hope that answers your question.

 

[Bumbles]

As others have said, its odd to say that you don't trust people you hang out with.

Ah, you know what, I don't need that long post , I'll just say, your way of expressing my side of things is not entirely accurate, and that your way of doing things, it probably seems equally odd to me.

You want to have people drinking at games? Fine, but dealing with it is a hassle I refuse to accept. It's not worth it to me. You can chalk it up to distrust if you like, but that's not entirely accurate. It's not a distrust of individuals. It's a distrust of human nature.

 

[CleverNickName]

We occasionally have alcoholic drinks at our games. Sometimes we drink beer, sometimes wine, sometimes whiskey. Sometimes we don't drink at all, sometimes we drink a little, sometimes we drink a lot. Sometimes (okay, once) people sleep on our couch the next morning.

It has never been a problem for us because we are all very close friends. We have known each other for years, we look out for each other. Nobody is going to let anyone get out of hand...if T tells me that I've had too many and takes my beer away, she's probably right.

Sure, it helps that none of us are recovering alcoholics, and that none of our beliefs require us to abstain from alcohol. But the biggest reason, IMO, is that we trust each other.