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Why do I get each letter twice?
Is it because of my alt?

Thanks, -- N

Yep. If you have two accounts, you can unsubscribe from one and still receive the other. Or get it twice, or unsubscribe from both - your choice! :)
 

Well, each account must have a unique e-mail address, and we send to all accounts who receive admin e-mail. So, the alt account is going to get it too.
My alt and I share an email address. (It's not really used to avoid identification... the username is Not Nifft.)

Yep. If you have two accounts, you can unsubscribe from one and still receive the other. Or get it twice, or unsubscribe from both - your choice! :)
Okay.

Cheers, -- N
 

At no point does it say that the admin contacting you will be administrative.

It remains that the admin sending you an emailed newsletter remains by definition well within the scope of the admin contacting you via email.

Then it is disingenuous, a deceptive and misleading practice. I am not the only one who believed as stated. Newsletters and solicitations should be subscribed to.

So, I agreed to receive admin emails. Not newsletters. Not emails from vendors who pay the admin to send me emails. Not emails from porn sites that pay the admin to send me porn ads. Not emails about penis pills because the admin feels I need them. I (and even the admin agrees it was poorly worded) agreed to receive emails from an admin based on there need to let me know vital information concerning the site. I did not give them carte banche to spam me whenever they might feel the urge. It is a matter of trust.

And again, the disclaimer, this is not the end of the world. It is just not cool, wther technically or not.
 

Then it is disingenuous, a deceptive and misleading practice. I am not the only one who believed as stated.

It is none of these things. It is an honest attempt to provide a good and useful service. It's not even trying to sell you anything. Whether you personally think it may be misguided is one thing, and a perfectly reasonable position to take; calling me disingenous and deceptive is another thing entirely.

Let's refrain from personal insults, please, folks.
 

At no point does it say that the admin contacting you will be administrative.

<sarcasm>
Yeah, how on Earth could anyone jump to the conclusion that a setting allowing contact from administrators would be reserved for administrative purposes?
</sarcasm>

Seriously, whilst I have no personal objection to receiving the newsletter, I do find the suggestion that this is a legitimate channel through which to provide it to be naive at best. The "allow administrators to contact you" option is commonplace across many forums, and I have never seen it as anything but a channel for essential administrative e-mails - and, until now, never seen it used except for that purpose.
 

It is none of these things. It is an honest attempt to provide a good and useful service. It's not even trying to sell you anything. Whether you personally think it may be misguided is one thing, and a perfectly reasonable position to take; calling me disingenous and deceptive is another thing entirely.

Let's refrain from personal insults, please, folks.

I was calling the original "admin statement" disingenuous if taken in the context that the poster offered it as;i.e. "Technically" it allowed admins to contact me and therefore I had no basis for complaint if an admin sent unsolicited mail. That would been a deceptive and twisted interpretation, one you, had never engaged in.
 
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It's not even trying to sell you anything.
:uhoh: That seems to have changed.


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:hmm:
 

Wow, I can't believe how crazy people are getting about this. In the sea of unsolicited spam emails about Viagra, your rich Nigerian benefactor, cheap watches, and Canadian drugs, one newsletter from a community you (in the general sense) chose to participate in with people you possibly care about that provides a free service gets you that upset? Yeah, it was unsolicited. Maybe it was a mistake. Delete the thing, turn off the option and go on your merry way. The admins don't deserve this kind of ire, cut them some slack.
 

Wow, I can't believe how crazy people are getting about this. In the sea of unsolicited spam emails about Viagra, your rich Nigerian benefactor, cheap watches, and Canadian drugs, one newsletter from a community you (in the general sense) chose to participate in with people you possibly care about that provides a free service gets you that upset? Yeah, it was unsolicited. Maybe it was a mistake. Delete the thing, turn off the option and go on your merry way. The admins don't deserve this kind of ire, cut them some slack.

Wrong. Just because sleazier things exist doesn't excuse rude behavior.

As I noted earlier, my time is a precious commodity. Wasting even five seconds of it is unacceptable and something any reputable site should strain to avoid.

Opt-in newsletters can be useful. Opt-out newsletters are spam. Simple as that.

Edit: As for the admins, maybe I'd agree that they don't deserve my ire if they refrained from spamming me.
 
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