Pathfinder 1E [MERGED] Pathfinder forum complaint threads

[Olaf the Stout]

I logged on this morning and found that the Pathfinder threads had been shunted off into their own private forum. While on the one hand I think this suggests that Pathfinder has a lot of support, enough hopefully to drive its own little forum, it also seems a little strange. Is there a Call of Cthulhu forum? A Toon forum? A True20 Forum? Have I just missed these? I get the feeling that someone complained the Pathfinder threads were dropping the 4e threads off the front page of the General Forum and management responded. If the only threads allowed in the General RPG forum are about WotC products, maybe it should no longer be labeled as being the General RPG Discussion Forum.


I don't really relish the edition wars but segregation does not seem to me the best way to handle the divide.

Seriously, what is up with all the anti-Paizo, pro-WotC conspiracy theories going on here?!?

Personally I like a lot of the products that Paizo put out but I don't get why so many people lately think that either WotC are out to get Paizo or EN World has it in for Paizo.

I don't play 4E (still 3.5E for me) and even though I am curious about the new Pathfinder rulebook, I have found that there have been way too many similar threads on it in the past couple of days and a lot of the other non-Paizo threads have been crowded out. I understand that people want to talk about the latest new shiny on the block so there will be lots of posts about it. However I think a lot of the new threads started could have just gone under an existing thread.

And I don't understand why people that are fans of Paizo/Pathfinder would be complaining about it getting its own forum. 4E got its own forum when 4E threads started to dominate General. I don't see why Pathfinder should be any different. What I really don't understand though is how getting its own forum is a bad thing. Surely if it is getting enough attention to get its own forum that can only be a good thing (even if it is only a temporary forum until the inital wave of excitement dies down).

So while I love Paizo products, I am really not understanding all the WotC conspiracy theories that seem to be brought up at the moment.

Olaf the Stout

 

[malkav666]

I am not very fond of the split. I will admit, I am not a 4e player, but I do enjoy reading threads about it. I also enjoy reading the oldschool threads and the other things that pop up in general. Now I will be less likely to view those threads, as I do most of my viewing from work. And my preferred method is an f5 refresh on the general forums, to seee if there is a topic I want to view.

I guess I can still navigate manually between the two...but I know I won't, because I am lazy. I think if segregation is to occur, it should all be segregated. It is a little unfair to have a forum about everything in gaming except pathfinder... If you want to read about that you have to go into a separate room. But anything that is not pathfinder? Sure go ahead.

It just does not feel right. But that is just my own opinion.

love,

malkav

 

[jaerdaph]

I don't think there's any conspiracy here, and it's great EN World is providing the discussion area (thank you, Morrus!), but I think the Pathfinder forum should have waited a week or two. When the idea for a separate Pathfinder forum was originally proposed there was good reasoning given why *not* to do it yet, and that seems to have gone by the wayside.

 

[Wulf Ratbane]

Rabble rabble rabble rabble!

 

[avin]

Pathfinder should stay here, or every 4E topic should me moved away.

Althought I'm not running Pathfinder these days I like Paizo a lot. Just downloaded their Bestiary Preview and, layout compared, both my 4E MMs are junk

General is for general thought on other encarnations and editions of D&D, right?

 

[rkwoodard]

Sop

And I don't understand why people that are fans of Paizo/Pathfinder would be complaining about it getting its own forum. 4E got its own forum when 4E threads started to dominate General. I don't see why Pathfinder should be any different. What I really don't understand though is how getting its own forum is a bad thing.
Olaf the Stout

This. Isn't it pretty SOP that anytime a game (Esp a new game or new edition) hits with this much Hype, it gets its forum for a while?

I want to read more than just Pathfinder threads, and for the next few days there will be enough threads to cover the first page.

Just my thoughts.

RK

 

[jaerdaph]

I always think of General as the "What's Hot/What's New/What's Up forum - it should include threads about the new Pathfinder release, just as it should include threads about the latest WotC 4e release. I want to learn about non-d20, non-fantasy games like Dread here too.

Edit: and the 3e and 4e forums (and now Pathfinder) have always been for rules discussion, not "everything 3e or 4e inclusive, at least that's what I thought.

 

[Melan]

As long as the subforum doesn't turn into a ghetto like the RPGNet d20 area - that is, as long as PF discussions of a general relevance go into the general forum - there should be no trouble, and a [PF] tag is both easy and recognisable. Rules-related discussions - there is a good case for putting them in a separate area.

 

[jaerdaph]

And I don't understand why people that are fans of Paizo/Pathfinder would be complaining about it getting its own forum. 4E got its own forum when 4E threads started to dominate General.

Not within 24 hours of the game's release...

But otherwise I agree, if the discussion volume *over time* gets out of hand (which it hasn't yet - it's just that the game was just released this week and GenCon is on, where the release is one of the "big events" this year), it should be in it's own forum.

There's more about "what is old school?" going on in General right now than there is about Pathfinder or 4e. And I love it!

(BTW, Olaf, our Yankees are starting to look good this year!)

 

[Cadfan]

1. I don't see a problem with Pathfinder having its own forum. I suspect that after the initial organization, you'll get the usual setup we have for most games- general news threads show up here, miscellaneous discussion ends up there. So threads like "Look at Pathfinder's Shiny New Thing!" will end up in general, while threads like "Sell Me On Pathfinder, What's Changed?" or "Is the Fighter Really Balanced Now?" will end up in the Pathfinder specific forum. The only way this could possibly hurt Pathfinder is if there's just not that much discussion about it, and the Pathfinder forum turns into a slum.

2. The conspiracy theory opening to this thread... frustrates me.