Hobby Game Market Strong, RPGs Deeply Troubled

[Doug McCrae]

The #3 and #4 positions are either out of order or have the wrong numbers.

 

[Mark]

Given that Hasbro's owned WotC for a decade now, and hasn't done a whole lot of that tying in, I'm not sure where you get the idea that they're interested in it.

Dungeons and Dragons Heroscape | HeroScape Master Set: Rise of the Valkyrie | BoardGameGeek

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showpost.php?p=895104&postcount=183

 

[malraux]

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But heroscape is a WotC product.

 

[Mark]

But heroscape is a WotC product.

Well, it's all Hasbro. Isn't the point that Hasbro is as much about encouraging the tie ins as strictly a non-WotC Hasbro property being tied in to a WotC property such as D&D? And Heroscape gets other tie ins, too, such as Marvel (is that WotC or strictly a Hasbro licence)? etc.

 

[AllisterH]

Well no.

Heroscape wasn't created by WOTC but by another Hasbro subsidary, namely Milton Bradley.

However, it was transferred to WOTC's control since, unlike other MB games, Heroscape contains "expansions, tournaments" and apparently MB is not really set up for testing/running a play network.

re: sales
I'm somewhat impressed that M:TG is still going strong even though, unlike the other CCGs, there's no media tie-in to get people interested in it.

 

[Mark]

Well no.

Heroscape wasn't created by WOTC but by another Hasbro subsidary, namely Milton Bradley.

However, it was transferred to WOTC's control since, unlike other MB games, Heroscape contains "expansions, tournaments" and apparently MB is not really set up for testing/running a play network.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Vartan]

Eh- My instincts tell me Hasbro is more concerned about what they can tie into the D&D name than D&D itself.

There are movies (as well as cartoons or other TV shows), merchandising, and other derivative products. Don't forget D&D themed board and computer games.

I would be surprised if they haven't floated the idea of an dedicated D&D CCG based on the M:tG ruleset & mechanics.

The IP is worth more than the RP

 

[thecasualoblivion]

So, the most hard information that comes out of this is that 4E Dungeons and Dragons is increasing market share compared to its competition, at least in hobby distribution.

 

[Mark]

So, the most hard information that comes out of this is (. . .)

No actual data, so nothing "hard" out of this at all.

 

[thecasualoblivion]

No actual data, so nothing "hard" out of this at all.

The roleplaying game category remains deeply troubled, with most brands down, and the gap between Dungeons and Dragons and the rest growing.

No specific data, but a clear conclusion that in the hobby channels, D&D is increasing market share.