Converting True Dragons

[Cleon]

I think you're right about Slither---Hiss!, but it would be nice to keep it to level 1. Illusion [figment, fear]. It's a cross between ghost sounds and magic mouth, so level 1 makes some sense there. Suppose we tone down the fear effect to bane, lasting 1 minute. Would it still be 1st level in that case?

Pretty---Boom! should definitely be evocation [force]. The question is what effect exactly?

Gosh, I seem to have missed a lot of drake action!

I fear it would be difficult justifying slither-hiss! as a 1st level spell, since it is a multi-target fear effect it could end up a lot more potent than the 1st level cause fear spell. I guess if it only causes a few rounds of the Shaken condition and has some HD limit (affects total HD up to caster HD? (max 10)?) it could be balanced for 1st level.

Pretty-boom! looks more like a 2nd level spell to me, a downgraded version of explosive runes.

 

[Shade]

I think you're right about Slither---Hiss!, but it would be nice to keep it to level 1. Illusion [figment, fear]. It's a cross between ghost sounds and magic mouth, so level 1 makes some sense there. Suppose we tone down the fear effect to bane, lasting 1 minute. Would it still be 1st level in that case?

I think that's reasonable, or even shakened for 1 round/level. In that case, it is essentially doom that affects multiple opponents, but for a shorter duration.

 

[freyar]

Well, I'm a little undecided about the subschool now, either figment or pattern. Because it seems to be a mind-affecting fear effect, I'm sort of leaning toward pattern, actually. What do you think?

Ok, affects up to 10HD of targets within 5 ft of the triggering creature, shaken for 1 rd/caster level?

 

[Shade]

That all sounds about right.

 

[Shade]

Also, I agree with Cleon's assessment of Pretty-boom! looks resembling a weaker version of explosive runes, which deals force damage.

 

[freyar]

Let's try this spell out. Should we also allow the trigger to depend on creature type?

Slither --- Hiss!
Illusion (pattern) [fear, mind-affecting?]
Level: Sorc/Wiz 1?
Components: V,S,M
Casting Time: 1 full round action
Range: Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Target: One object (see text)
Duration: 24 hours or until discharged
Saving Throw: Will negates (see text)
Spell Resistance: Yes (see text)

When a creature comes within 10 ft of the target object, the spell creates the illusory sound of a large serpent crawling and hissing nearby. In addition, the first 10HD of creatures within a 5 ft radius (or 10 ft?) of the creature that triggers the spell (including the triggering creature) are shaken for 1 round per caster level. Creatures with the lowest HD are affected first, and the creature closest to the triggering creature is affected first in the case of a tie.

A Will save to disbelieve the illusion also negates the fear effect.

Material Component: A snake skin or lizard skin.

 

[Cleon]

Let's try this spell out. Should we also allow the trigger to depend on creature type?

Slither --- Hiss!
Illusion (pattern) [fear, mind-affecting?]
Level: Sorc/Wiz 1?
Components: V,S,M
Casting Time: 1 full round action
Range: Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Target: One object (see text)
Duration: 24 hours or until discharged
Saving Throw: Will negates (see text)
Spell Resistance: Yes (see text)

When a creature comes within 10 ft of the target object, the spell creates the illusory sound of a large serpent crawling and hissing nearby. In addition, the first 10HD of creatures within a 5 ft radius (or 10 ft?) of the creature that triggers the spell (including the triggering creature) are shaken for 1 round per caster level. Creatures with the lowest HD are affected first, and the creature closest to the triggering creature is affected first in the case of a tie.

A Will save to disbelieve the illusion also negates the fear effect.

Material Component: A snake skin or lizard skin.

That looks good. I'd go for the 10 foot radius, myself.

 

[Shade]

Agreed. Updated.

 

[freyar]

And I thought it might need a little polish!

Let's get rid of some question marks:
Allow it to trigger only when a certain creature type comes by (like magic mouth)?
Spell level 1?
mind-affecting fear or just fear?

 

[Cleon]

And I thought it might need a little polish!

Let's get rid of some question marks:
Allow it to trigger only when a certain creature type comes by (like magic mouth)?
Spell level 1?
mind-affecting fear or just fear?

Well we'll needs some way to let the drake get through without triggering it, either a password or being able to set it to a creature type.

How about it triggers whenever a creature without the Draconic or Reptilian types passes by?

My preference is for spell level 1 and mind-affecting fear.