V The Series, Fall Finale

[catsclaw227]

So this week they had the finale of V - The Series' 4-part pilot, which won't return until March (or something like that).

I was getting a bit bored with this series, but the last chapter left a LOT of really cool cliff-hangers. I had a couple of WTF moments (in a good way) at the end, so it looks like I am going to stick around with this one when it returns.

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So is Lisa (Anna's daughter) going to reproduce with Tyler and make a hybrid?

Is the 5th column insider Anna's son or just part of the inner circle? And was it his brother he had to skin at the end?

How long will it take for all those damn ships to arrive? That was an awful lot of them....

And what did they spike the flue vaccine with and what will it do to humans?
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[BrooklynKnight]

Seeing those ships kinda ruined the show for me. It takes away all the mystery. Up till that scene all we knew is that 29 ships were already on Earth. It was obvious they arrived undetected because the V's have already infiltrated nearly every government on Earth.

So, now the V's are busy manipulating the mass herd of sheep we call the public for some nefarious purpose. I can buy all that. Till I saw the Armada. They can bring in that Armada at any fracking time and we have no way to fight back. None. Humanities situation is already precarious but they've given us the impression that we have some sort of chance to fight back...but I think that shot just ruins it.

 

[catsclaw227]

Seeing those ships kinda ruined the show for me. It takes away all the mystery. Up till that scene all we knew is that 29 ships were already on Earth. It was obvious they arrived undetected because the V's have already infiltrated nearly every government on Earth.

So, now the V's are busy manipulating the mass herd of sheep we call the public for some nefarious purpose. I can buy all that. Till I saw the Armada. They can bring in that Armada at any fracking time and we have no way to fight back. None. Humanities situation is already precarious but they've given us the impression that we have some sort of chance to fight back...but I think that shot just ruins it.

Not quite....

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The "bliss" seems to be some kind of mind control and it's obvious, because of the existence of the 5th Column, that some Vs don't like it all that much.

I wonder of Anna is simply an advanced more powerful V, a V with just more political power or if she is a demi-god of sorts. Was it the ROOM or a DEVICE that gave Anna the powerful bliss suggestion, or was it an innate power in her?

Oh.... and I don't recall from the original series, but did they have a bliss as well?
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[DreadPirateMurphy]

In response to Catsclaw's in-spoiler question: no, they did not.

BrooklynKnight, here is the question. If they can obviously just show up and blow us to heck...why haven't they? I think that one of the things the writers are trying to demonstrate is that the Visitors are playing a deeper game than is apparent even to the viewing audience, who get to see things like the private conversations Anna has with her advisors.

In the original series, the V were here to a) steal our water (which is stupid, as water is hardly rare in the universe), and b) to eat us (which is also somewhat questionable, given their level of technology). Neither of those have so far been implied in any serious fashion in the new show. I'm choosing to hope that the creators of the show have given them some type of motivation that will make all of their efforts make sense.

 

[jaerdaph]

Ack! I hate having to wait three months for more!

At least Lost is coming back soon.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

I didn't really get that this was supposed to be a cliffhanger.

 

[TanisFrey]

In the original series, the V were here to a) steal our water (which is stupid, as water is hardly rare in the universe), and b) to eat us (which is also somewhat questionable, given their level of technology). Neither of those have so far been implied in any serious fashion in the new show. I'm choosing to hope that the creators of the show have given them some type of motivation that will make all of their efforts make sense.

And also from the original V:
3) Use humans as cannon fodder in some conflict elsewhere.

 

[Steel_Wind]

They continued with the water and vague minerals game, but it's pretty clear that they have other designs in which our bodies have a role to play.

I'm guessing a) meat and b) a source of organs or other parts to preserve their lives well past their natural lifespan.

The last episode hinted that the R6 plays a great part in their plan. There is something in that bottle they want Billions of people to be injected with. Why? That's the $1,000,000.00 question.

The theme of control via The Bliss and the extension of the V's own lifespan many times over would seem to be a significantly persuasive reward to cause many of the V's to ignore the moral implications of consuming a sentient alien species simply because they taste good.

It also seems that among the Fifth Column, they are resisting The Plan for moral reasons.

I would think that trying to keep us alive for use as a source of some organ or other vital by-product in our brains, not easily synthesized, which is used to greatly extend their lives (at the cost of ours) makes the most sense in terms of the setup. Humans as Anagathics on the Hoof, as it were.

Our tech is not sufficient to defeat the Vs, but it is clearly sufficient to defeat the Vs plans, else they would not have bothered with the subterfuge. I think this predicts that the Vs plans involve using our planet (which we might wreck via a nuclear holocaust) or, more likely, our bodies as a source of some critical biological resource they lack. The danger is that we become wise to their plans, and use nukes on them - and end up destroying ourselves or otherwise render Earth (and us) unusable for their nefarious schemes. The Dog in the Manger/Armageddon Defence.

Armageddon Lite: More plausibly, we use their own biotech against them to simply find a way to poison ourselves more effectively, without risk to us - but rendering our body parts unusable to the V's. A designer virus, deliberately spread to as to leave the living human host alive, but render that host unusable for their purposes would seem far more satisfactory then our dying with 2 suns in the sunset. YMMV.

Having been denied the fruits of their victory, and losing the carrot of immortality (or extended life and vigour) to dangle in front of her people, Anna is thus thwarted. She loses control and the Fifth Column is now in a position to persuade their population to leave Earth alone - willingly.

 

[Krug]

Well the fourth episode did pick up things a little bit, though the trio walking off after destroying the warehouse was bizarre; like they had just gone for a coffee.

The end shot wasn't too much of a surprise. The Vs never said they were alone did they? It wouldn't make sense to send everyone or every ship they had to a potentially hostile planet. Frankly, it was a visual blah.

 

[catsclaw227]

But the unanswered question is still... What is Anna?

Is she a simple forward scout group to that massive army? With her bliss ability, is she a high priestess of a larger church that is still to come? Or is she much stronger... A demi-goddess of her kind, worshiped and highly influential and of course part of the advance team?

Who and what is Anna? (And why does she want her child to be "close" to the human boy?)