This mentality needs to die

[WarlockLord]

This. This is videogame logic, the logic that won't let you get past the Ragecandybar man despite the fact that you have 2 dragons and a ghost in your pocket. Tvtropes. Why is this considered good? And would you want your DM to do it?

 

[Celebrim]

This. This is videogame logic, the logic that won't let you get past the Ragecandybar man despite the fact that you have 2 dragons and a ghost in your pocket. Tvtropes. Why is this considered good? And would you want your DM to do it?

Ouch is that painful. It's not considered good. It never has been considered good.

Remind me to never to pay to be a player at Chris Perkins table. Besides being hidebound and always looking for a reason to say 'No', his delivery is almost anti-story and anti-cinematic. I'd blame it on the edition except that I know there are some good DMs here at EnWorld who've transcended the edition.

I think I'd rather watch paint dry than that. No wonder PnP RPG's have a hard time acquiring new players.

 

[Vorput]

...that is sad.

 

[bagger245]

Is this how majority of 4e games are played?

 

[Crothian]

What is? Usually its better to explain your postion then having links to things.

 

[Piratecat]

What's interesting is that I've played at Chris Perkins' table before (way back in 2000 or so, before 3e launched), and he can be a superb DM. He had a good sense for the dramatic, a great dungeon design sense, and he's a good enough artist that his quick dungeon sketches were really evocative. He ran a fun game.

That being said, I really don't like a tendency to say no instead of yes. That makes the game less fun for everyone in my opinion. If a door is frozen shut and a PC has a fire power, I'd rather have the DM say "yes, but..." instead of just "no."

 

[darjr]

Is the issue with him saying the doors are sealed or with his denying the use of darkfire to melt the ice?

 

[bagger245]

Is the issue with him saying the doors are sealed or with his denying the use of darkfire to melt the ice?

If it is, can someone post the Darkfire power up just so that people will know what they are talking about?

 

[unan oranis]

Drow dark-fire not melting ice? Sounds... reasonable?

I would have let the guy make an arcana check to "magically" melt the ice, or given him some option other than "there is only one way to open this door - period".

Especially as this is being recorded, I think you'd want to stonewall as little as possible.

But still, drow dark-fire doesn't actually make fire.

 

[Vorput]

Is the issue with him saying the doors are sealed or with his denying the use of darkfire to melt the ice?

My issue is with him saying the power can't be used because the door isn't a creature. I have no problem if the power was ineffective (though I'd like to know why), but it should still be allowed to be used.