Converting original D&D and Mystara monsters

[Shade]

Added the basics to Homebrews.

I think SLA works best for the charm (plus it will actually boost the save DC in this case). The suggestion could be either Su or Sp.

 

[freyar]

Ok, then,

SLA: At will - charm person, suggestion (charmed targets only)?

or

SLA: At will - charm person

Suggestion (Su): At will, a hypnos magen may contact any subject of its charm person spell-like ability telepathically, as long as that creature is on the same plane as the magen. The hypnos magen may use this telepathic contact to impart a suggestion, as the spell. A DC X Will save negates the suggestion. The save DC is Charisma-based.

 

[Shade]

Shouldn't it be charm monster? Nothing seemed to indicate the ability should be limited to humanoids.

 

[freyar]

I'm fine with charm monster, but here's the original quote (my bold):

Hypnos can attempt to use charm person once per round; a victim who fails a saving throw vs. spells believes the hypnos to be a valued friend.

 

[demiurge1138]

Agreed to sticking to charm person.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

Suggested caster level for the abilities?

 

[freyar]

Should be reasonably high. CL 6? That gives it a 6 hour duration. One argument for charm monster is the day/level duration instead, and we could stick to CL=HD then. Hmph.

 

[Shade]

Either approach works for me. I don't find charm monster to be overpowered in this case, despite it being a higher level spell.

That said, CL 6th charm person may be adequate.

 

[Cleon]

Either approach works for me. I don't find charm monster to be overpowered in this case, despite it being a higher level spell.

That said, CL 6th charm person may be adequate.

I'd rather keep it charm person. That's what it says in the original description, and charm monster at-will is a bit more potent than I fancy for these creatures.

Maybe we should give them a higher Charisma to match their modus operandi. I'm thinking a Charisma around 13-15, since suggestion is a 3rd level sorcerer spell, and their ability to telepathically command charmed creatures has a certain similarity to dominate person and telepathic bond, both 5th level sorcerer spells.

Split the difference for Charisma 14?

 

[freyar]

Cha 14 sounds right.