D&D 4E No 4E fey?

[MarauderX]

They don't list housecats either. I think they fall into that category. If a DM told me that there was 5 or 6 pixies in the next room, my reaction would not be to roll initiative.

Regardless of your opinion of how dangerous these creatures can be, they certainly don't encompass the idea of fey as your OP implies.

Bummer. I guess pixies, as invisible, charming, distracting, prank-laden, and musical as they might be, are no worse than a house cat (standard or pirate) and they, despite their exception taste in clothes and off-broadway musicals, shouldn't be considered even the slightest bit fey.

 

[MarauderX]

Doesn;t there need to be material left for MM4?

I suppose I need to lobby WotC for sprites to be added. For 3rd edition they made it in MM1 so perhaps an invisible charming hand was looking out for them.

 

[Garthanos]

Now Tinker Bell in Hook is just upwards of awesomely potent and can kick ass independent of size.

Sprite size doesn't need to be a limit on there prowess in a world of magic... they have Will'o Wisps...

I am remembering the mockery in the voice of one of the young mages in Hairy Potter "Cornish Pixies!?" and how all were disabled by a single spell.

 

[Flipguarder]

Bummer. I guess pixies, as invisible, charming, distracting, prank-laden, and musical as they might be, are no worse than a house cat (standard or pirate) and they, despite their exception taste in clothes and off-broadway musicals, shouldn't be considered even the slightest bit fey.

Let me clarify my point:

1. While probably more mischievous than most cats, and definitely more intelligent, I would be hard pressed to call them "monster-worthy" I don't see them as serious threats. Even a unicorn or a riding horse could easily do more damage physically then a pixie.

2. When I said encompass, I meant that they are not the entirety of the fey world. Your post says no 4e fey stuff, but there is plenty of that, just not the three "creatures" you are looking for.

 

[MarauderX]

Let me clarify my point:

1. While probably more mischievous than most cats, and definitely more intelligent, I would be hard pressed to call them "monster-worthy" I don't see them as serious threats. Even a unicorn or a riding horse could easily do more damage physically then a pixie.

2. When I said encompass, I meant that they are not the entirety of the fey world. Your post says no 4e fey stuff, but there is plenty of that, just not the three "creatures" you are looking for.

Thanks, I believe I understood those points and was respectfully disagreeing. There are many things more deadly than straight physical damage.

And if a pixie isn't the epitome of fey then perhaps they might be defined as Tinafey and they live in the TinaFeywild. Perhaps you'll see a post about just that in the 4E homebrew section tomorrow.

 

[ValhallaGH]

And if a pixie isn't the epitome of fey....

Not for any normal definition of fey (though I'll grant that everything related to D&D is abnormal).
Fey is an adjective referring to:

• Fate, particularly fatal dooms.
• Suffering from an enchantment.
• Being otherworldly, supernatural, or enchanted in nature.
• Unnaturally high spirits, usually preceding death.

While sprites, pixies, and grigs are otherworldly in nature, and often possessed of high spirits (making them fey creatures), they are hardly the only ones that get described as such, nor are they the entirety of the genre.

Can they be interesting opponents? Yes.
Should they be combat opponents? Probably not. Too many suspensions of disbelief shatter at the idea of engaging in combat with Tinkerbell or similar creatures ("I hit it with a fly swatter! I slap a jar over it! What do you mean it's still fighting!?").
Do non-combat opponents need actual stats? Not in 4E they don't. In fact, not giving fey creatures stats makes them better opponents, because their abilities are never predictable and can always scale as the story (and tastes of the players, and the DM is always a player of the game) requires.


Good luck.

 

[Rechan]

If your players are not going to attack them, then they don't need stats. This applies to anything in the game. Dealing with pixies et al could easily be handwaved as a skill challenge otherwise.

If you absolutely, positively need combat stats for pixies, here:
[sblock]Pixie Prankster Level 7 Controller
Tiny Fey Humanoid XP 300
Initiative +7 Senses Perception +12, Low Light Vision
HP: 80; Bloodied: 40
AC: 21 Fortitude: 19 Reflex: 20 Will: 19
Speed: 2, Fly 7 (hover)

Don't Make Me Get Rough (Standard, At-Will)
+12 vs. AC; 1d8+5 damage, and Prankster is invisible to target until the beginning of Pixie's next turn.

Prank (Standard, At Will)
Wet Willie: +11 vs. Reflex; target is dazed and receives a -2 to attacks until the end of the pixie's next turn.
Tied Laces: +11 vs. Reflex; target is knocked prone and weakened until the end of the Pixie's next turn.
Diving Pickpocket: +11 vs. Reflex; 7 damage, and the pixie steals a small object from the target, such as a vial, scroll, or coin.

Deft Prankster (Minor, Encounter)
The Pixie Prankster uses Prank.

Here I am! No, Here! No, Here! (Immediate Interrupt, Encounter) When attacked in Melee
The Pixie Prankster teleports 3 squares and has combat advantage against the target for its next attack.


Pixie Punk Level 7 Artillery
XP: 300
Initiative +7 Senses Perception +12, Low Light Vision
HP: 64; Bloodied: 32
AC: 19 Fortitude: 19 Reflex: 20 Will: 19
Speed: 2, Fly 7 (Hover)

I'm serious, I'll hurt you (Standard, At Will)
+14 vs. AC; 1d8+5, and Punk is invisible to the target until the start of Punk's next turn.

Obscene Gesture (Standard, At Will)
Range 10; +12 vs. Will; 2d8+5 psychic damage, and target receives a -2 to attacks until end of Punk's next turn.

Oh Yeah? Your Mom Kisses Centaurs (Immediate Reaction, Encounter) When hit by an attack
Pixie Punk shifts 3 squares and uses Obscene Gesture.

Here I am! No, Here! No, Here! (Immediate Interrupt, Encounter) When attacked in Melee
The Pixie Punk teleports 3 squares and has combat advantage against the target for its next attack.

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[Piratecat]

Good luck putting a pixie on top of one of these:

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I see no beaks, sir. WHERE ARE THE BEAKS?

Otherwise, that's glorious, and the pixies need a tiny little saddle.

 

[avin]

A search on the term "fey" brings up 294 creatures in the D&DI Compendium, including Dryads, Nymphs and Satyrs.

Heh... Waterboiled Dryad, Yaga-Yaga Dryad, Dryad Soldier etc don't count

 

[DracoSuave]

Heh... Waterboiled Dryad, Yaga-Yaga Dryad, Dryad Soldier etc don't count

Eladrin, and Formorian do, and those are a lot closer to what 'fey' traditionally means than 'winged little cute creature girls like'