The Four Lands Forum

[Maidhc O Casain]

I didn't even know there were 'traits' in PF optional or not. But I have only pathfinder beta, maybe it's not there? Anyhow, I second the request for money totals, number of magic items allowed etc.

The traits aren't detailed in either the beta or the Core Rules, but the 'basic' ones are available as a free download on Paizo's website - you have to sign in, and the link will be listed on your 'My Downloads' page.

Also, official Core Rules are up in Paizo's PRD if you'd care to make the switch from Beta . . .

 

[grufflehead]

@ Neurotic - quite a few changes between the PF beta and final release. This should get you started:

Pathfinder SRD (Pathfinder_OGC)

@ Mowgli - I'd never really read that trait in any detail before. Wow, it's pretty sweet for a mixed caster - almost as good as the old Practised Caster, but without having to burn a feat for it. There are quite a few threads scattered around here and other places moaning about how cr*ppy PF Mystic Theurge's are. They're not (IMO), but you could certainly boost one of your casting classes with this very easily, without needing to resort to drawing on 3.5 feats.

On a general note (nothing to do with this game) I have to say I'm also of the opinion that if you play Pathfinder, then damn well play Pathfinder - don't use the changes in PF then just port over a load of stuff from 3.5 because PF doesn't have the particular nugget of cheese you want. Of course, I'd totally support anyone porting an existing PC from one of JA's games to one of the new ones and taking 3.5 material because it's the only way to recreate the character as you want it. Otherwise while PF is supposed to be backward compatible, I'm quite happy to let the bloated carcass of 3.5 fester away somewhere else thanks.

/rant

 

[Lou]

@grufflehead-Don't worry about JA letting in bloated characters and equipment. They have a tendency to dismemberment, death, and silent theft in JA's worlds. That one nugget you want to make your PC that much better may suddenly become an albatross around your neck and a shining beacon for your new-found enemies to follow.

 

[grufflehead]

Heh, yes one of my potential fellow players (who shall remain nameless) gave me a brief summary of what to expect. I'm playing another very low cash/magic game on here just now and find it curiously refreshing so limits on that side of things don't worry me. On the character options front, the subtle (and not so subtle) changes to the PF classes are enough to have me excited to try ones I didn't like in 3.5 and re-play ones I did to see what the differences are.

 

[Leif]

On a general note (nothing to do with this game) I have to say I'm also of the opinion that if you play Pathfinder, then damn well play Pathfinder - don't use the changes in PF then just port over a load of stuff from 3.5 because PF doesn't have the particular nugget of cheese you want. I'm quite happy to let the bloated carcass of 3.5 fester away somewhere else thanks.

/rant

Heh! Well said!

[sblock=grufflehead]ENWorld xp awarded. [/sblock]

 

[Scotley]

Hey Leif, Re: your comment in the old thread. I have not seen a new rogues gallery for the 4 lands. Note that the forums have been reorganized and their is now a place specifically for RG's rather than just putting them in plots and places like we used to.

 

[Leif]

Ahhh, that's very good to know, thanks!

 

[Maidhc O Casain]

On a general note (nothing to do with this game) I have to say I'm also of the opinion that if you play Pathfinder, then damn well play Pathfinder - don't use the changes in PF then just port over a load of stuff from 3.5 because PF doesn't have the particular nugget of cheese you want. Of course, I'd totally support anyone porting an existing PC from one of JA's games to one of the new ones and taking 3.5 material because it's the only way to recreate the character as you want it. Otherwise while PF is supposed to be backward compatible, I'm quite happy to let the bloated carcass of 3.5 fester away somewhere else thanks.

/rant

This. Whole-heartedly, unreservedly, this.

 

[Scott DeWar]

I am still waiting to see if I can be accepted into the intelengence service.

 

[Scotley]

I am still waiting to see if I can be accepted into the intelengence service.

Always a bridesmaid never a bride...