Hackmaster won an ORIGINS award in 2001

[thedungeondelver]

He does also have a point,

No, he did not. Unless his point was "wah, the hoi-palloi don't know what's good for them, how dare they still like an AD&D pastiche", which is what it appears that it was. And that's a stupid, ignorant and petulant point which is easily dismissed.

 

[thedungeondelver]

Given that you couldn't even remember who he was five minutes ago, any boycott by you over the last few years will have been no more than accidental.

I'm sorry, morrus. Big fan of mr. Baugh's work?

 

[DragonLancer]

I'm with TheDungeonDelver on this one. If enough people voted for it because they thought it the best game of 01 or simply because they didn't like the other entrants is irrelevant because enough people voted it as the best. Hackmaster isn't my cup of tea but I can really feel for the old style gaming which has been largely forgotten these days.

To be fair, most of the entrants of these awards I've never heard of and I try to keep an ear to the ground on all aspects of hobby gaming.

 

[Morrus]

I'm sorry, morrus. Big fan of mr. Baugh's work?

Nope. Not even familiar with it. Just curious how you boycotted someone whose name you didn't know.

 

[Wicht]

I'm sorry, morrus. Big fan of mr. Baugh's work?

Though I agree with you about the fact that Baugh's comments make me not want to buy his stuff either, I did think Morrus's comment was pretty funny. Just cuz' it was true.

Sadly I find I have not been boycotting Mr. Baugh's work as I do own Hunter: The Reckoning. But now that I know what he said (and knowing is half the battle), I'll probably be less inclined to buy other things with his name on them. Like True20 Adventure Roleplaying.

 

[J Arcane]

Who is Bruce Baugh?

What's he authored?

Baugh is the individual responsible for the abortion that is the D20 Gamma World.

It is perhaps not surprising that the man who wrote that book, and the man who made the statement quoted here, are one in the same.

Anyone who would refer to a fan of AD&D1 as "terminally retrograde" is perhaps not the best candidate to write a new edition of a game that has always been unabashedly old school and silly, in the grandest of traditions.

 

[Crothian]

If you are going to boycott him then you are doing yourself a real disservice because Hollow Earth Expedition is one of the best pulp games to ever be published. Better even then the one he mentions and worked on in 2001, Adventure.

 

[jonesy]

I don't think what he said was good business strategy. Not the way he said it anyhow. But that was seven years ago. Do we know what his opinion is today? And does it really matter? I'm not going to boycott someone just because they got a little angry that a product they didn't like took an award they would have wanted. I think he overreacted, and I think that anyone who boycotted him for that also overreacted.

 

[cignus_pfaccari]

No, he did not. Unless his point was "wah, the hoi-palloi don't know what's good for them, how dare they still like an AD&D pastiche", which is what it appears that it was. And that's a stupid, ignorant and petulant point which is easily dismissed.

How dare he dislike AD&D, God's own gift to gaming! I know, it's a horrible sin, and agree he must be flayed alive for it.

No, not really. Lots of people dislike or don't care about AD&D. Do you boycott their stuff, too?

Brad

 

[J Arcane]

How dare he dislike AD&D, God's own gift to gaming! I know, it's a horrible sin, and agree he must be flayed alive for it.

No, not really. Lots of people dislike or don't care about AD&D. Do you boycott their stuff, too?

Brad

Except that's not what he said. "I don't like AD&D and don't think it should've won an award" is a pretty non-controversial statement.

What he said was that anyone who likes AD&D is an idiot and a troglodyte and that Hackmaster's nomination was tantamount to a repudiation of all gaming and the end of creativity as we know it.

That, is a touch more of a controversial statement. And dare I say it: utterly pretentious and pure elitism at it's finest.

Not that elitism is foreign to him. In addition to his Gamma World edition in which he set out to "teach" Gamma World players about "proper" sci-fi by butchering it, he's also the guy who was working on an expansion to SOTC, a pulp game, called "New Horizons", whose central premise was that pulps are racist trash and need to be "reinvented" to teach gamers proper PC attitudes.