The misbegotten waif thread a/k/a The Fray

[renau1g]

Only if he takes Skill Focus (Perform) now

 

[Rhun]

Or the enemy is a wizard and hits the fighter with an Irresistible Dance spell!

 

[renau1g]

And to demonstrate what that would look like:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMH0bHeiRNg]YouTube - Evolution of Dance - By Judson Laipply[/ame]

 

[Leif]

And to demonstrate what that would look like:

Ehh, he's not bad I guess, but he has no GNOME MOVES!

 

[HolyMan]

Wait are we really have a character build debate between 3e and 4e??

I mean really 3e wins as you can have some many variants of a fighter it is astounding while in 4e you get the same carbon copy fighters everytime,(taking the best powers) even if they take a "different power" it is still "I move up and swing."

My experience is limited I admit but I have not seen where the "extra" a power gives you is used even half the time.

Eample: Pin the Foe

Probably takin because of it's 3[W] damage but never truly used to pin anyone because a) double team never happens or b) the target doesn't want to shift anyway.

Don't want to offend I just see more in 3e for building a character. I mean I can build a swashbukler, northland savage, or even a dirty streetfighter type so much easier in 3e.

OFF RANT: If you have such a rich friend Leif can I bum a couple bucks??

HM

 

[Leif]

I don't see why you couldn't do all the same things in 4E that you can in 3.5E, but, like you, I haven't actually seen anybody do it yet.

My "friend's" money is his own. (And MINE, of course! )

 

[Relique du Madde]

I don't see why you couldn't do all the same things in 4E that you can in 3.5E, but, like you, I haven't actually seen anybody do it yet.

My "friend's" money is his own. (And MINE, of course! )

Sorry, but in all my experience in looking at 4e and having my eyes gloss over, I haven't seen there be any hints at having the ability to make a fighter that is so utterly useless in combat* that your group/DM does a collective facepalm when they look over your character sheet.



*While using their full capabilities that is.

 

[HolyMan]

Sorry, but in all my experience in looking at 4e and having my eyes gloss over, I haven't seen there be any hints at having the ability to make a fighter that is so utterly useless in combat* that your group/DM does a collective facepalm when they look over your character sheet.



*While using their full capabilities that is.

I'm sorry Relique du Madde I don't get your meaning. I'm sure it's my lack of sleep, but a fighter is NEVER utterly useless in combat LOL

I was saying that the style/build (maybe not the right words?), is so much easier to do with 3e. I like that I can take a class and by choosing different feats/skills/weapons, I get a total different warrior even if he has the same stats as the one next to him.

4e does have some things I like and have HR into a few games, but as a system in itself I think it is missing in character development (which is what RPing is about, at least for me).

HM

 

[HolyMan]

Double Posting that's another way to get this thread to tumble out of control LOL

HM

 

[Relique du Madde]

I'm sorry Relique du Madde I don't get your meaning. I'm sure it's my lack of sleep, but a fighter is NEVER utterly useless in combat LOL

I was saying that the style/build (maybe not the right words?), is so much easier to do with 3e.

They can be when you intentionally build them to suck for "rp" reasons.

For instance, I once saw a pacifist fighter who used a SAP out of all weapons since he refused to kill while spending most of his fighter feats to by certain craptastic exotic weapons (bola and net anyone?) because "weapon proficiencies should count as combat feats."

Now, I know what you're saying, he's a fighter he could still be a meat shield. However, he would refuse to fight and chided the group for getting involved in combat vs "EVIL cannon fodder race X, Y ,and Z"