The misbegotten waif thread a/k/a The Fray

[renau1g]

Hah. That's so strange, I'm exactly the opposite . I certainly won't say no to a 4e game, it's fun as a player, but since I'm usually the DM, we play 2e, 3e or 3.5 as I absolutely hate running 4e.

Really? I find 4e to be by far the easiest to run. Having the adventure tools has made my life so easy, there's thousands of monsters available in seconds. I found once you got to around 6-7th level the amount of work involved shot up dramatically for 3e, but doesn't seem to be the case in 4e.

That brings up an interesting question, BR, do you find that 3.5 is clearly superior to 2e and 3e, or do you have another preference between those three?

I know that was BR's question, but having played all of them I prefer 3.5e to 2e and I never had any issues with 3e, I still struggle to figure out exactly what changed there. My biggest complaint with 3.5e was class bloat and general power increases with later books, the Spell Compendium was a big one.

I remember 2e nostalgically as that system was the one I learned to play on (between Baldur's Gate & the RL game) but after trying a 2e PbP about a year ago the rules felt much more cumbersome than 3.xe or 4e.

 

[Blackrat]

Well, my preferences have shifted over time. Now I do believe 3.5 is superior for bringing new players to the game, but for sheer fun I find 2e to be the best. 3e has some stuff that was way better than in 3.5 but on the whole, between those I like 3.5 better. I usually use 3.5 with houserules that are actually taken straight from 3e core. Like weapon sizes, combat facing and creature sizes etc...

But when the fun starts and I get to play with older gamers. Well then it's 2e time

If I take the topic a bit further though, I think SWSE is absolutely the best d20 system ever.

 

[Blackrat]

Really? I find 4e to be by far the easiest to run.

Easy, yes, I give it that. But to me it lacked the certain "oomph". Can't really say what it is, but I just don't enjoy running 4e. Playing was awesome though

 

[Leif]

Well, my preferences have shifted over time. Now I do believe 3.5 is superior for bringing new players to the game, but for sheer fun I find 2e to be the best. 3e has some stuff that was way better than in 3.5 but on the whole, between those I like 3.5 better. I usually use 3.5 with houserules that are actually taken straight from 3e core. Like weapon sizes, combat facing and creature sizes etc...

But when the fun starts and I get to play with older gamers. Well then it's 2e time

If I take the topic a bit further though, I think SWSE is absolutely the best d20 system ever.

Interesting, interesting...you're the first person I've yet found who prefers 2E to 3.5E. Ok, I'll bite, what is SWSE?

 

[Blackrat]

Star Wars Saga Edition

Well, with 2e it's the other way round than with 4e

2e is awesome to run, but it's not that awesome as a player

 

[renau1g]

I'll echo SWSE as an excellent system

 

[Leif]

I have several of the books for SWSE, but I've never actually played the game.

 

[HolyMan]

BR is right as a system 2e is easy to run I just got down reviewing my 2e combat rules (no options) for

http://www.enworld.org/forum/playing-game/290550-dragons-autumn-twilight.html

The Dragonlance game I have started and it is so simple I may need to add a few options to keep the players interested. I remember back then having no figures or maps and just had to "imagine" the combat in your heads.

100 years from now they will have 3D digital boards that will show your characters swinging and casting spells after you type in your actions and will leave nothing to your imagination. LOL

HM

 

[Relique du Madde]

100 years from now they will have 3D digital boards that will show your characters swinging and casting spells after you type in your actions and will leave nothing to your imagination. LOL

HM

You mean like this?

 

[HolyMan]

Sorry Relique du Madde I can't see that image just a white box with a red "x"

HM