January and Beyond!

[Nemesis Destiny]

BTW, if the Shade truly does get additional feat or power options that turn the One With Shadow power into a useful feature, wouldn't it make sense to drop some hints in the preview article? Shouldn't the Shade preview work to make players say "Damn, I need that book -- the Shade lets me build a type of character I never could before."

The preview did what it is there to do - get gamers talking about it. Even if that means, as in this case, in a (mostly) negative way. We're still discussing new D&D product. It's the no-such-thing-as-bad-press school of thought.

It gives you +2 on all Marketing checks.

 

[MrMyth]

I wonder how it would be if One with Shadow was a move action?

If you really want to hide right this moment, sure, you can use a standard action to go and hide. (Or, potentially, have a power that lets you move and thus hide as part of it.) But more often, you would use One with Shadow, and then go and hide with your move action on the next turn.

So having it at-will isn't quite as abuseable, but it doesn't completely shut down your ability to do other stuff while hiding.

 

[Prestidigitalis]

The preview did what it is there to do - get gamers talking about it. Even if that means, as in this case, in a (mostly) negative way. We're still discussing new D&D product. It's the no-such-thing-as-bad-press school of thought.

Just because the cliché exists doesn't mean that it is correct or that WotC believes it is correct.

 

[Nemesis Destiny]

Just because the cliché exists doesn't mean that it is correct or that WotC believes it is correct.

It's just been the trend I've noticed in their previews. They're fond of leaving out little tidbits and teh internets get all furious talking about it, then the product is released and the buzz dies down when folks realise it wasn't that bad after all. I know, it's anecdotal, but I'm citing this anyway. I honestly have no clue what goes through the heads of their marketing people.

 

[Prestidigitalis]

It's just been the trend I've noticed in their previews. They're fond of leaving out little tidbits and teh internets get all furious talking about it, then the product is released and the buzz dies down when folks realise it wasn't that bad after all. I know, it's anecdotal, but I'm citing this anyway. I honestly have no clue what goes through the heads of their marketing people.

Interesting observation, if accurate.

 

[Saeviomagy]

I wonder how it would be if One with Shadow was a move action?

If you really want to hide right this moment, sure, you can use a standard action to go and hide. (Or, potentially, have a power that lets you move and thus hide as part of it.) But more often, you would use One with Shadow, and then go and hide with your move action on the next turn.

So having it at-will isn't quite as abuseable, but it doesn't completely shut down your ability to do other stuff while hiding.

If that were the case, there's any number of powers that incorporate movement which would be very interesting combined with it, and it WOULD make quite a good rogue - you could choose shade, choose a rogue type other than cunning sneak, and spend each round using one with shadow and deft strike to gain CA. Or one with shadow and acrobatic strike to attack in melee, then step away and gain hidden for your defense.