Bury Elminster Deep (Sample chapter)

[Orius]

I only wish they would.

Ha! I knew someone was going to make a comment like this.

 

[Ulrick]

Have to spread some XP.

Now if everyone does what I'm going to do, that might see him off. Don't buy the D@## book!

Yeeessss... not even Elminster can withstand the magic of capitalism's invisible hand working against him!!! Bwahahahah!

 

[wingsandsword]

Ass pull.

I wouldn't call it that.

If anything, I would call it 4e Realms getting a hair back more within continuity of the earlier editions and it being the opposite of it.

Part of Mystra's whole point is she can't permanently die. She dies, she gets reincarnated into a new form and her very identity is tied to the magic of the world. No Mystryl/Mystra, no Magic in Abeir-Toril.

For there to be magic in ANY form, Divine or Arcane, (other than the Shadow Weave, which has a steep price and is a secret of the Church of Shar), some vestige of Mystra had to survive. Part of the whole point of the Chosen was a contingency against her being annihilated, by putting divested shards of her divinity in as many separate vessels as possible to prevent the sort of anarchy of the Spellplague. One of my bigger complaints about the 4e Realms was the idea that Mystra was permanently dead but somehow Magic still existed.

So, it's looking like, in the long game, Mystra might be coming back in some form and Shar's "permanent" destruction of her only lasted a little over a century. A long time for mortals, but in the ~35 millennia history of Toril kind of a blip, like the chaos the world was in after the fall of Netheril.

 

[Jimlock]

Some Originality....PLEASE!!!

Elminster

Gandalf

 

[dagger]

I still use the grey box set....so my Elminster is a semi well known Sage and only among the Dalelands.

 

[Kaodi]

If Elminster has been turned into magical ash, there is only one thing left to do: invent cement.

 

[Herobizkit]

Well, if this were the Wizardry series of games, one more failed resurrection attempt and he's gone forever...

 

[Orius]

Am I the only one here who thinks Drizzt needs a painful and humiliating death more than Elminster? What did 4e do to that damnable drow anyway?

 

[Ulrick]

Am I the only one here who thinks Drizzt needs a painful and humiliating death more than Elminster? What did 4e do to that damnable drow anyway?

Drizzt is okay in my book. I like the earlier stories until around Passage to Dawn when my interest in him started to wane.

As far as I know, 4e really didn't do much. Salvatore's sequence of Drizzt novels continue unabated. Fans demanded more Drizzt Do'Urden after the Icewind Dale Trilogy. Each Drizzt book has been a best seller. I'm sure if Salvatore killed off Drizzt, that book in which Drizzt died in would be an even greater best seller.

I've read Elminster: The Making of a Mage. I finished it, but didn't like it. The book read like a guy bragging about his favorite D&D character rather than a story. Needless to say, I didn't read any more Elminster books, and Elminster's "monologues" at the beginning of almost each Forgotten Realms product got old pretty fast after that.

 

[JohnRTroy]

Honestly, people who hate Elminster and want to read the Forgotten Realms novels should just move on. It's like being mad that there are novels about Darth Vader or Luke Skywalker in the Star Wars universe, or novels about Spock in Star Trek.