Bury Elminster Deep (Sample chapter)


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Jimlock

Adventurer
Especially when he leaves Shadowdale to it's own fate and misery once the Zhents step into town...

(Shadowdale - The Scouring of the Land, 3.5 adventure)
 


Ulrick

First Post
"Elminster's archenemy, the vampiric Lord Manshoon, thinks he has destroyed Elminster at last. But Elminster survives in the form of magical ash..."

oh for crying out loud.

Is the ash floating around like a cloud? Or is Elminster kept in a cremation jar? I guess I'll have to read the book to find out... or not. :erm:
 

the Jester

Legend
"Elminster's archenemy, the vampiric Lord Manshoon, thinks he has destroyed Elminster at last. But Elminster survives in the form of magical ash..."

oh for crying out loud.

Is the ash floating around like a cloud? Or is Elminster kept in a cremation jar? I guess I'll have to read the book to find out... or not. :erm:

Yeah, I strongly suspect that I only care enough to mock this book.

Jesus Mary Sue Christ, what will it take to get rid of the biggest DMPC in D&D's history?
 


jonesy

A Wicked Kendragon
Interview: Ed Greenwood & Elminster Del Rey and Spectra - Science Fiction and Fantasy Books, Graphic Novels, and More

SS: With Bury Elminster Deep coming out next year, how many books do you foresee in this set?

EG: Six and three.
That is, like Bob, I have a contract for six books (Drizzt books for him, mine involving Elminster).

Yeah, I don't think Elminster will die in this book. There's five more books after this one.

Edit: wait, that might mean 3 more books. Hmm, wonky math at work here.
 
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I wouldn't call it that.

If anything, I would call it 4e Realms getting a hair back more within continuity of the earlier editions and it being the opposite of it.

Part of Mystra's whole point is she can't permanently die. She dies, she gets reincarnated into a new form and her very identity is tied to the magic of the world. No Mystryl/Mystra, no Magic in Abeir-Toril.

For there to be magic in ANY form, Divine or Arcane, (other than the Shadow Weave, which has a steep price and is a secret of the Church of Shar), some vestige of Mystra had to survive. Part of the whole point of the Chosen was a contingency against her being annihilated, by putting divested shards of her divinity in as many separate vessels as possible to prevent the sort of anarchy of the Spellplague. One of my bigger complaints about the 4e Realms was the idea that Mystra was permanently dead but somehow Magic still existed.

So, it's looking like, in the long game, Mystra might be coming back in some form and Shar's "permanent" destruction of her only lasted a little over a century. A long time for mortals, but in the ~35 millennia history of Toril kind of a blip, like the chaos the world was in after the fall of Netheril.
 

Jimlock

Adventurer
Some Originality....PLEASE!!!

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Orius

Hero
Am I the only one here who thinks Drizzt needs a painful and humiliating death more than Elminster? What did 4e do to that damnable drow anyway?
 

Ulrick

First Post
Am I the only one here who thinks Drizzt needs a painful and humiliating death more than Elminster? What did 4e do to that damnable drow anyway?

Drizzt is okay in my book. I like the earlier stories until around Passage to Dawn when my interest in him started to wane.

As far as I know, 4e really didn't do much. Salvatore's sequence of Drizzt novels continue unabated. Fans demanded more Drizzt Do'Urden after the Icewind Dale Trilogy. Each Drizzt book has been a best seller. I'm sure if Salvatore killed off Drizzt, that book in which Drizzt died in would be an even greater best seller.

I've read Elminster: The Making of a Mage. I finished it, but didn't like it. The book read like a guy bragging about his favorite D&D character rather than a story. Needless to say, I didn't read any more Elminster books, and Elminster's "monologues" at the beginning of almost each Forgotten Realms product got old pretty fast after that.
 

JohnRTroy

Adventurer
Honestly, people who hate Elminster and want to read the Forgotten Realms novels should just move on. It's like being mad that there are novels about Darth Vader or Luke Skywalker in the Star Wars universe, or novels about Spock in Star Trek.
 

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