stunned freedom of movement

[Greenfield]

On a more light hearted side note, we now know the mechanics of the coming zombie apocalypse.

When a person is dying, the SRD says that they are unconscious and can take no actions. Note that these are listed as separate conditions.

Once they're dead though, they're still unconscious, but are no longer prevented from taking actions.

Being unconscious, their actions will be mindless (like may of my posts), but they are still allowed. Therefore, all any dead body needs to become a zombie is motivation, some reason to act.

So go out and motivate a corpse today! Let's get this apocalypse started already!

 

[ForeverSlayer]

On a more light hearted side note, we now know the mechanics of the coming zombie apocalypse.

When a person is dying, the SRD says that they are unconscious and can take no actions. Note that these are listed as separate conditions.

Once they're dead though, they're still unconscious, but are no longer prevented from taking actions.

Being unconscious, their actions will be mindless (like may of my posts), but they are still allowed. Therefore, all any dead body needs to become a zombie is motivation, some reason to act.

So go out and motivate a corpse today! Let's get this apocalypse started already!

Throwing the part about death does not help your argument nor does it get anywhere.

 

[Greenfield]

Ah, I see I'm not the only one capable of mindless posts.

 

[ForeverSlayer]

I didn't notice that crazy word, because that word action is never mentioned for 5 ft step. Free actions are actions, I agree. FIVE FOOT STEP IS NOT A FREE ACTION, though.

Okay it is a "Miscellaneous Action" which is still an action.

Still doesn't change the fact that is says in the Stunned description that you "can't" take any actions.

 

[Greenfield]

Okay it is a "Miscellaneous Action" which is still an action.

Still doesn't change the fact that is says in the Stunned description that you "can't" take any actions.

Please quote the text from the SRD that describes it as a "miscellaneous action". Or as any type of "action", for that matter.

And, while you're at it, please respond to my earlier question regarding the "dying" condition which, like "stunned", allows you no actions. Would FoM prevent this condition, or allow you to move while in it?

 

[Dandu]

Buffy, you seem to have overlooked my post above. I would like to see your response to it.

I have included a link to it for your convenience.

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

Miscellaneous actions is just some grouping that was used for stuff that didn't belong anywhere else. Five foot step itself is never called an action of any kind. And includes such gems as:

"Use Feat
Certain feats let you take special actions in combat. Other feats do not require actions themselves, but they give you a bonus when attempting something you can already do. Some feats are not meant to be used within the framework of combat. The individual feat descriptions tell you what you need to know about them."

"Use Skill
Most skill uses are standard actions, but some might be move actions, full-round actions, free actions, or something else entirely.

The individual skill descriptions tell you what sorts of actions are required to perform skills. "

Just general grouping together of stuff. Plenty of feats and skills are no action at all, and not even "part of some other action" -- Weapon Focus is a non-action, just a passive benefit. Sense Motive is also not an action.

Finally, if it's not glaringly obvious enough, just look at the table to the right in that link. What are the words it says right above Delay and 5 ft step? That's right... "No Action." As opposed to the items listed after that, which are "Action Type Varies" (ie, Full, Standard, Move, Free, Swift, Immediate, or not an action).

 

[Greenfield]

I stand corrected. 5-foot step is indeed listed under the general heading of "Miscellaneous actions".

Notwithstanding, the fact that a stunned character has no actions doesn't equate to having impeded movement. It simply isn't his action to move while he's stunned. Similar, as I've said, to dying.

So again, would you allow FoM to grant movement to an unconscious and dying character?

If not, then how could you justify granting an extra action to someone who is Stunned

 

[Empirate]

Throwing the part about death does not help your argument nor does it get anywhere.

Your snarky tone does not help your argument nor does it get anywhere.

Specifically, since your zest to, not disprove, but simply contradict our reasoning over and over again seems to hamper your ability to actually answer questions adressed to you, refute points made against your points, and provide arguments why you're in the right and the vast majority here is in the wrong, I do hereby accuse you of trolling this thread until you do any of the above in a constructive manner and will neglect to provide further argument in a debate that was finished on page one anyway. Empirate out.

 

[ForeverSlayer]

Dodge [General]

Prerequisite

Dex 13.
Benefit

During your action, you designate an opponent and receive a +1 dodge bonus to Armor Class against attacks from that opponent. You can select a new opponent on any action.
A condition that makes you lose your Dexterity bonus to Armor Class (if any) also makes you lose dodge bonuses. Also, dodge bonuses stack with each other, unlike most other types of bonuses.
Special

A fighter may select Dodge as one of his fighter bonus feats.

You do realize that the Stunned effect causes you to lose the option of using the Dodge feat.