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Instead replace that statement with "We make money by not giving you this function, so why make any changes?"

Just to be clear, I don't make any money from the site. The Mods are all volunteers.

I did leave out a chuck of context that I thought was understood, and maybe some of what I meant was thereby lost.

As Morrus said, the real search feature (which is native, not Google-driven) works pretty well, but kills the server if too many people use it. It wasn't pretty when he did turn it on for all users.

The Google method works well on SRD sites, because they have highly structured and controlled data, and much less of it. For large message boards, it is a slap-dash solution*. We want you to get the most out of the site, though, and don't want to trick you into buying an account just for search. We mention the Google method when the question comes up, so at least you have some option.

Let's say he did put in a Google search box. Very quickly, folks would find it kinda sucked. They'd say so, loudly. "Hey, you gave us a feature, and it sucks!" He'd say, "Well, you could pay for a better search...," and everyone would grump at him for bait-and-switch upsell business practices.

To me, that sounds like a worse situation for everyone. Why spend time or money to include a feature that works poorly, is already native to the user's browser, and makes you look bad to your users to boot?



*My personal experience is that it gets you a lot of false-positives from Google. If you know exactly what you're looking for, and it is recent, what you want will usually be one of the top hits. Otherwise, you're going to be wading through a lot of search-noise. And Google cannot handle searching for a post by a particular user well at all.
 

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I am aware that if everybody had the native search function it would drain/crash the server. No need for a demontration as this site has been slowing down for quite some time.

I gave an option that could work for both EN World & its membership. Third party powered searches are used also for goverment, banking and medical sites just to name of few. It doesn't have to be powered by Google but by any engine that you prefer. I was just using the SRD sites as an example.

It would be interesting to see a side by side test of the EN World Search engine vs a 3rd party search engine (yahoo, google, etc). Something pretty simple to perform then you would know your answer before you start poo-poo'ing the idea.
 

It would be interesting to see a side by side test of the EN World Search engine vs a 3rd party search engine (yahoo, google, etc). Something pretty simple to perform then you would know your answer before you start poo-poo'ing the idea.

You can try it for yourself. Do a search here, then go to Google and do a site:enworld.org search.
 
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If the site search really has advantages over Google, I would recommend touting that when people complain about having to pay for it. When someone says "They make you pay just to search??" don't say "What an angry man, didn't you read the rules when you made your account, I mock you with my taco comments". Say "You can always search the site for free by Googling site:enworld.org. The search service for subscribers offers numerous advantages over Google like searching by username and searching user tags. Unfortunately, when we offered site search to all users it caused unacceptable slowdowns in reading and posting, but we are happy to offer it as a premium feature for our paid subscribers."

I've never had any problem searching by username using Google, myself...
 




Man, what is up with all the aggro here. You people should learn how to live with each other better. Must be all the tacos you eat.

You get all gassy and grumpy...
 



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