Do you want/are you ready for a D&D 5th edition?

Do you want/are you ready for D&D 5E?


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Or, depending on your viewpoint, 'the GSL was slumping rancidly on the horizon'....

The GSL is melting in the dark
All the sweet, new coding flowing down...
Someone left the game out in the rain
I don't think that they can save it
'cause they promised then delayed it
And we'll have to fight Edition Wars again

OH NOEEEEEEEES!!!
 

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You see me now a veteran
Of the game's Edition Wars.
I've been playin D&D so long
Where the winds of gamers roar
And I'm young enough to look at
And far too old to see
All the scars are on the inside
I'm not sure if there's anything left of me
 

I see that my opinion offended you, but I stick by it. I do not want to see Fourth Edition with its tens of thousands of players abandoned to appease some others who do not like it. Let each play the game he likes and do not lobby to change the other man's game.

...He said, while lobbying to prevent my game from ever existing.

Look, you advocate for the game you want. That's fine. It may not be the game I want. That's fine too. And if you think 5E will split the 4E market and make your life worse, feel free to agitate for 4E to continue forever. I don't agree with you, but there are lots of folks I don't agree with about lots of things.

What I find offensive is the claim that "players who dislike Fourth Edition should stick with the myriad other D&D systems already published rather than wish that Fourth Edition be replaced by something that already exists elsewhere." I will wish for what I want, thank you very freakin' much, and I will do so publicly and loudly. And if what I want existed elsewhere, I'd be playing it.

What everybody should do is speak up for what they want. If it turns out that there's a big community of 4E players who want their game to remain current, and only a handful of malcontents wanting 5E, okay; 4E stays. But if it turns out most players are making do with their current game and would really like to see 5E, and only a handful of holdouts want 4E to stick around, 4E goes*, and that's how it should be.

[size=-2]*Except it's not even that, because 4E will still be around, just like 3E, and 2E, and 1E, and OD&D with the Chainmail combat rules. It just won't be the current edition supported by WotC any more. Quelle horreur.[/size]
 
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I see that my opinion offended you, but I stick by it. I do not want to see Fourth Edition with its tens of thousands of players abandoned to appease some others who do not like it. Let each play the game he likes and do not lobby to change the other man's game.

This is how many people felt when 4E came out. It was tailored to the folks who didn't like 3E and the 3E fans were left hanging. Many of us wanted a new ediition that built on and fixed 3E, not one that was a complete redo of the game. I'd really like to see an edition of D&D that attracts more players to the table from a range of playstyles.
 

I voted "yes" for 5E, but honestly it's because I haven't been a WotC customer for a while now. I probably purchased the least amount of things from them during this 4E period than any other edition; only a couple novels, nothing else. That said, I don't have anything against 4E rules necessarily, but it just wasn't to my tastes. I absolutely HATED what they did to make the 4E Forgotten Realms, so much so that I doubt if it can be fixed in such a way that I'd like it. Completely erasing the Realms 4E period would be one route toward that, but they're never going to do that.

So I'm pretty much beyond caring what WotC does at this point, who they lay off, who they hire, etc. Long ago they stopped catering to my tastes as a customer. But they're a business, so they do what they feel is necessary. Maybe they can create an amazing 5E system, but it'd have to be truly brilliant for me to consider buying from them again.
 

I'm ready for 5e. I doubt that I'd actually play 5e, but I'd like to see what Cook & Mearls come up with. I'd probably just buy the core rulebooks out of curiosity like I did for 4e.

WotC lost me as a customer in 2003 with the switch to 3.5. After some initial excitement for 3.0, my game group got disillusioned with 3.0 after a couple of years and the release of 3.5 just cemented our switch back to 1e/2e.

I'd love to see a 5e that's essentially classic B/X D&D with modern mechanics (ascending AC and Fort/Ref/Will saves). Keep the core as simple as possible. There's always room for expansions afterwards...
 

Er, it isn't like he makes a habit of bashing 4th edition as you seem to be implying.

Really, where, in me asking for one example of a positive thing he's said, does it imply he's bashing it. Seriously, how is it implied?

Or do you not understand the difference between someone with nothing positive to say and someone bashing something? Because, there is a difference.
 
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...He said, while lobbying to prevent my game from ever existing.

Look, you advocate for the game you want. That's fine. It may not be the game I want. That's fine too. And if you think 5E will split the 4E market and make your life worse, feel free to agitate for 4E to continue forever. I don't agree with you, but there are lots of folks I don't agree with about lots of things.

What I find offensive is the claim that "players who dislike Fourth Edition should stick with the myriad other D&D systems already published rather than wish that Fourth Edition be replaced by something that already exists elsewhere." I will wish for what I want, thank you very freakin' much, and I will do so publicly and loudly. And if what I want existed elsewhere, I'd be playing it.

What everybody should do is speak up for what they want. If it turns out that there's a big community of 4E players who want their game to remain current, and only a handful of malcontents wanting 5E, okay; 4E stays. But if it turns out most players are making do with their current game and would really like to see 5E, and only a handful of holdouts want 4E to stick around, 4E goes*, and that's how it should be.

[size=-2]*Except it's not even that, because 4E will still be around, just like 3E, and 2E, and 1E, and OD&D with the Chainmail combat rules. It just won't be the current edition supported by WotC any more. Quelle horreur.[/size]

Go write your own game then. Publish it. Just do not lobby to replace 4E.
 

Go write your own game then. Publish it. Just do not lobby to replace 4E.

Tallifer, you are out of order here. It isn't up to you to tell someone what they may/should lobby for or not.

Talk up what you like about 4e, enjoy all that there is under that roof, lobby WotC for whatever you like.

But don't tell other people what they may or may not do.

Thanks
 

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