Converting Planescape monsters

[freyar]

No, they shouldn't have a ground speed. Cut it.

 

[Cleon]

No, they shouldn't have a ground speed. Cut it.

Snip!

What Challenge Rating do you think?

 

[Shade]

I like Gravity Catapult.

Since Shade seems to be busy elsewhere, I'll post a Working Draft with what we've got so far...

Wow, a fella steps out for a few days and people start ignoring the Homebrews entry he went to so much trouble to create.

Updated.

CR 4 feels about right.

 

[Cleon]

Wow, a fella steps out for a few days and people start ignoring the Homebrews entry he went to so much trouble to create.

Updated.

CR 4 feels about right.

A Giant Eagle has pretty similar stats and it's Challenge Rating 3.

So, the big question is are its Gravity Catapult and Augmented Critical special attacks worth an extra CR?

I suppose they could be, although that still makes them a weak CR 4.

Hmm... we could leave it to Freyar to decide?

 

[freyar]

Tough to decide. I guess I'd go with a strong CR 3.

 

[Cleon]

Tough to decide. I guess I'd go with a strong CR 3.

So would I.

Incidentally, if they are immune to gravity that means they should be unable to Dive (as they don't have weight to accelerate them, which infers they can't make Dive attacks either) and Climb at their full speed (as they aren't "moving up").

Should we include that somewhere, in tactics or the Immunity To Gravity. I suppose we could make it a separate "Weightless Flight" SQ, but that seems superfluous.

For example:

Ni'iaths start combat by trying to catapult an opponent into a nearby object (boulder, tree, et cetera) with their tail-sting attack. A ni'ath's immunity to gravity means it cannot make a dive attack. Ni'iaths never catapult prey anywhere they might lose it, such as over a cliff. The ni'iath pack then closes in on their chosen prey, either finishing it off with their claws and teeth, or carrying their victim off to their lair.

Immunity to Gravity Effects (Ex): A ni'iath is immune to any gravity-based effect (such as a reverse gravity spell or falling damage). It can perform all actions (including flying with perfect maneuverability) without penalty whether it is in light, heavy or normal gravity. Flying ni'iaths are unable to dive or make dive attacks, since they cannot use the pull of gravity to speed their descent. An inactive ni'iath simply hovers in the air, drifting with the wind until it rots away or is eaten.

 

[freyar]

The suggested red text is fine by me. Although it should be clear that they can still make normal charges.

 

[Cleon]

The suggested red text is fine by me. Although it should be clear that they can still make normal charges.

Agreed.

Like this?

Ni'iaths start combat by trying to catapult an opponent into a nearby object (boulder, tree, et cetera) with their tail-sting attack. A ni'ath's immunity to gravity means it cannot perform a dive attack, but they often use charge attacks. Ni'iaths never catapult prey anywhere they might lose it, such as over a cliff. The ni'iath pack then closes in on their chosen prey, either finishing it off with their claws and teeth, or carrying their victim off to their lair.

Immunity to Gravity Effects (Ex): A ni'iath is immune to any gravity-based effect (such as a reverse gravity spell or falling damage). It can perform all actions (including flying with perfect maneuverability) without penalty whether it is in light, heavy or normal gravity. Flying ni'iaths are unable to dive or make dive attacks, since they cannot use the pull of gravity to speed their descent. An inactive ni'iath simply hovers in the air, drifting with the wind until it rots away or is eaten.

 

[freyar]

That's fine by me.

 

[Cleon]

That's fine by me.

Updating Working Draft.

I think that's it, Shade just needs to port the tweaks into Homebrews and we're done.