Searing Light

Re: presence of aluminum in DnD.

A suby is composed of CrAl2O3. An emerald's consists of Be3Al2(Si03)6. A sappire is Al2O3

Guess what Al stands for?
Never said, or argued that the element doesn't exist. It's been around forever, and known or used for almost as long. The ancient Romans used Alum as a medicine and as a dye, for example. (Alum is Aluminum Sulfate)

I just said that the discovery of it as a useful metal had to wait for the industrial use of electricity, since you need that to smelt it.

As an element it was isolated in 1825 by a chemist, Hans Christian Oersted, though it had been suspected much earlier.

In game terms I'd have to rate its production as an alchemical process rather than something a smith might do. It was so hard to produce that it considered more valuable than gold at one time.

Look at Aluminium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia if you want some history. It's the best mirror coating, and probably the worst structural material for a project like this, because it's so soft, and undergoes a lot of expansion/contraction with temperature changes.
 

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If telekenisis works in space...and all things in space are weightless, why not just crash the moon into the country and be even more awsome?

No one forgets the guy who drops a moon on someone to make a point, you don't mess with that guy either...he'll drop a moon on you

and as for all this ring-gate debate the answer is simple.

"Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie."



and if you were to do that much work to destroy a country anyways...why not just cast earthquake? :3 to soon japan?
 


"Can't make mirror perfect enough"
I thought a huge number of spells in D&D hinged on your will alone? All you would need to do is know of what you would need, and your will itself would make it as perfect as it needs to be, no? (Question, not argument)

"Earth is Colossal"
Some things in D&D MUST be homebrewed, as the WotC people are not perfect, and so it is arguable that making a new size category for a planet could be considered official rule, regardless of the fact that it would vary for every group. To consider earth to be the same size category as a dragon is... No, I'm not even going to bother arguing the logic. I'll just leave it at that for everyone following this.

Awesome. Smaller mirror array, set at a closer distance, focusing on a "Wrath of Palor". Pristine mirrors would be best, but not a necessity in this case.
What book is that in?

This challenge has successfully been completed, yes? Should Dandu think of the next challenge? I personally think Greenfield gets VIP in this thread. I really don't want this thread to end, but since any more arguments would be moot, a new thread should be made, with a new idea.
Maybe a discussion on a star and what it would be considered in D&D? (Combustion does not equal fusion) I really like the idea of making a gateway in the middle of a star and having its own gravity force itself through the gateway.
Bathing the earth in the light of a thousand suns... here I come.

Side note... I thought energy could not travel in the form of heat, (since heat is just molecules with high energy) in a vacuum? Would the light energy, after it is turned partially to heat energy when contacting the mirrors, really dissipate into the vacuum behind the mirrors? How does earth, then, keep from dropping to absolute zero...?
 

"Can't make mirror perfect enough"
I thought a huge number of spells in D&D hinged on your will alone? All you would need to do is know of what you would need, and your will itself would make it as perfect as it needs to be, no? (Question, not argument)
Fabricate is the crafting spell, and it still requires a crafting skill check. While it's nearly instantaneous, it has problems as well. You can't claim crafting bonuses from masterworked artisan's tools, circumstance bonuses for having access to a well prepared shop, nor Aid bonuses from assistants, since they can't actually participate in the crafting.

In the end, it still comes down to a skill check, and the item is only as "perfect" as you could make it by hand.

Greater Creation can create the mirrors out of nothing at all, though they don't last, and there's still a Craft check involved for fine work.

To my mind, a parabolic mirror with a focal length of 231,000 miles qualifies as "fine work". Hell, it's overqualified if anything.
"Earth is Colossal"
Some things in D&D MUST be homebrewed, as the WotC people are not perfect, and so it is arguable that making a new size category for a planet could be considered official rule, regardless of the fact that it would vary for every group. To consider earth to be the same size category as a dragon is... No, I'm not even going to bother arguing the logic. I'll just leave it at that for everyone following this.
Most of my argument here has been that you can follow the rules of the game, or you can try to follow the laws of physics and "common sense". It's really hard to do both.

So if your solution is to "homebrew" an answer (which amounts to changing/ignoring the rules of the game) then that's your solution.

Awesome. Smaller mirror array, set at a closer distance, focusing on a "Wrath of Palor". Pristine mirrors would be best, but not a necessity in this case.
What book is that in?
It isn't. I made it up. In fact, I said as much when I wrote "...create an Artifact". And there's no reason to limit it to a smaller mirror array. You could include as many as you like.

What you need to look out for is the enemy with a mirror of his own. He'll be able to redirect your weapon to use as he will.

Side note... I thought energy could not travel in the form of heat, (since heat is just molecules with high energy) in a vacuum? Would the light energy, after it is turned partially to heat energy when contacting the mirrors, really dissipate into the vacuum behind the mirrors? How does earth, then, keep from dropping to absolute zero...?
Infra-red radiation is a form of light, radiant energy, and can travel through a vacuum. It excites molecules when it strikes them, inducing "brownian motion", meaning vibration on the molecular scale. Other wavelengths of light can do this as well, but less effectively.

These molecules can re-emit the infra-red energy, which can again radiate back into space. If that couldn't happen then you wouldn't worry about the Earth dropping to absolute zero, you'd worry about it superheating into a plasma cloud. The ultimate "greenhouse effect".
 

Start with pocketful of Reduced or Itemized boulders that you brung into space.

OR

Create Wonderous Item: A "dirty" version of Decanter of Endless Water. The Decanter of Endless Earth will produce dirt, rocks and boulders until you tell it not to.

This is interesting... You could make a decanter for any element really, could you not? How about a decanter of endless fire? What about para-elements and quasi-elements? A large enough decanter of endless vacuum could suck a planet's atmosphere away, presumably diverting it to the Plane of Vacuum. You could build into the structure of a really large spelljamming ship, and use it to devour the ozone around a pesky planet. A decanter of endless ash could pollute a huge area given enough time. Drop a few thousand on a planet and it could block sunlight, killing off the plant life and changing the climate... :hmm:
 

"The Earth isn't hiding. Spot checks aren't required."
LOL! Next goal after deathstar... giving the earth sentience so it can make hide checks... XD


There's already a living demiplane, why not a living planet? Imagine a gaseous planet turning slowly into organic compounds and then congealing into proteins that develop a cellur structure...
 

This is interesting... You could make a decanter for any element really, could you not? How about a decanter of endless fire? What about para-elements and quasi-elements? A large enough decanter of endless vacuum could suck a planet's atmosphere away, presumably diverting it to the Plane of Vacuum. You could build into the structure of a really large spelljamming ship, and use it to devour the ozone around a pesky planet. A decanter of endless ash could pollute a huge area given enough time. Drop a few thousand on a planet and it could block sunlight, killing off the plant life and changing the climate... :hmm:

A Decanter of Endless Fire on "geyser" setting would make a good rocket. Just find a way to aim it and make a crude warhead out of vials of oil and thunderstones...
 

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