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I am not paying a monthly fee to play a D&D game.
I want to see one book
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I am not paying a monthly fee to play a D&D game.
Ed_Laprade
Adventurer
XP is still down, but absolutely!
TerraDave
5ever, or until 2024
I didn't mean like that. And given the approach of 5E, I don't see how that would be possible. (ie you will not need a char builder or a big online compendium to look stuff up in).
But you could pay a monthly fee.
Or you can get the "best of" online content and original content at a moderate rate in print. (if you really like buying 10 books a year, then I don't have anything to say!).
am181d
Adventurer
I suspect the majority are going to favor the traditional 1-2-3 split.
The innovations that I'm hoping for are:
An Essentials proportioned paperback PHB for easy transport and use at the table...
...and a PDF or iBook for each book.
I stopped buying 4e books when they stopped offering PDFs. I haven't decided if I'll buy into 5e if there's no electronic version of the books, but it'll definitely be a deterrent.
The innovations that I'm hoping for are:
An Essentials proportioned paperback PHB for easy transport and use at the table...
...and a PDF or iBook for each book.
I stopped buying 4e books when they stopped offering PDFs. I haven't decided if I'll buy into 5e if there's no electronic version of the books, but it'll definitely be a deterrent.
Mercutio01
First Post
I want 3 books. I know I'm completely in the minority, but I liked 2E's Monstrous Manual three-ring binder (for several different reasons).
I'd also like a separate Beginner/Basic Box.
The last thing I'd like is PDF support of the books (and I'd really like to see verified purchasers getting the PDF for a deep discount--something like $5 a PDF for a verified hard-copy purchase).
I'd also like a separate Beginner/Basic Box.
The last thing I'd like is PDF support of the books (and I'd really like to see verified purchasers getting the PDF for a deep discount--something like $5 a PDF for a verified hard-copy purchase).
Verys Arkon
First Post
I'd still like the traditional 3 book model, but I would divide the books into tiers (heroic, paragon, epic), so in the end there are 9 books. I know I know - heresy to suggest 9 books, but by the time you get PHB 1-3, DMG 1-2, and MM 1-x, you are getting close anyway.
The reason I want them by tier, like the BECMI set or Dragon Age RPG, is that it allows more breadth of content directed to the tier you are actually playing in. In the first PHB for 4e, for example, I would gladly have traded the power descriptions for levels 10-30 and the paragon paths and epic destinies for levels 1 to 10 of the classes that came out in PHB 2 and 3. Having to wait two or three years to play some of the classes was...not good. I know the goal for 5e is to have all classes that where in a PHB 1 to be in the first release. I hope the goal and the reality of physical page limitations and layout don't collide.
For the Monster Manual, playing in a heroic campaign means never really needing all the high level monsters. I'd trade the Titan, demons and gods for more critters I'll actually be using.
It also gives WOTC the time to really polish higher level play for another year or so after the initial release. Time to make a coarse correction if needed, and a place to add those optional rules that naturally come up in paragon or epic play - castle building, mass combat, the planes, etc.
Downside, I understand, is those groups that level quickly and get through the first 10 levels before the Paragon material is released are going to hit a content wall that may interrupt their campaign a little. And some people are just going to balk at the idea of buying nine books for the complete game, especially people like the OP that want one book.
I'd be happy to have a streamlined subset of rules in one volume that goes 1-20/30 for the crowd that doesn't need any options beyond the most classic DnD races, classes and Monsters though. Sort of a DnD lite.
Verys
The reason I want them by tier, like the BECMI set or Dragon Age RPG, is that it allows more breadth of content directed to the tier you are actually playing in. In the first PHB for 4e, for example, I would gladly have traded the power descriptions for levels 10-30 and the paragon paths and epic destinies for levels 1 to 10 of the classes that came out in PHB 2 and 3. Having to wait two or three years to play some of the classes was...not good. I know the goal for 5e is to have all classes that where in a PHB 1 to be in the first release. I hope the goal and the reality of physical page limitations and layout don't collide.
For the Monster Manual, playing in a heroic campaign means never really needing all the high level monsters. I'd trade the Titan, demons and gods for more critters I'll actually be using.
It also gives WOTC the time to really polish higher level play for another year or so after the initial release. Time to make a coarse correction if needed, and a place to add those optional rules that naturally come up in paragon or epic play - castle building, mass combat, the planes, etc.
Downside, I understand, is those groups that level quickly and get through the first 10 levels before the Paragon material is released are going to hit a content wall that may interrupt their campaign a little. And some people are just going to balk at the idea of buying nine books for the complete game, especially people like the OP that want one book.
I'd be happy to have a streamlined subset of rules in one volume that goes 1-20/30 for the crowd that doesn't need any options beyond the most classic DnD races, classes and Monsters though. Sort of a DnD lite.
Verys
Fifth Element
Legend
I'd be fine with one book, as long as it's not a monstrosity like the nigh-600-page Pathfinder tome.
underfoot007ct
First Post
Sigh, Didn't we have this discussion in Jan & Feb.
GravyFingerz
Gravymancer
My apologies. I was not engaging in discussion at that point.
YRUSirius
First Post
Hehe.
Yeah, gimme Basic D&D (level 1-10) and Advanced D&D (11-20). And maybe Complete D&D (level 1-20) and Epic D&D (21+). Each of those would be a player's handbook.
The same could be done for the DM's guide with an integrated Monster Manual. Why should the DM have to buy 2-3 books (pretty hefty buy in for new DMs)? The DM's book for level 1-10 would have basic DM guidelines and monsters for level 1-10 and the DM's book for level 11-20 (and maybe above) would have guidelines for this tier (maybe strongholds etc.) and monsters for level 11-20+.
I like that BECMI/Dragon Age approach.
-YRUSirius
Yeah, gimme Basic D&D (level 1-10) and Advanced D&D (11-20). And maybe Complete D&D (level 1-20) and Epic D&D (21+). Each of those would be a player's handbook.
The same could be done for the DM's guide with an integrated Monster Manual. Why should the DM have to buy 2-3 books (pretty hefty buy in for new DMs)? The DM's book for level 1-10 would have basic DM guidelines and monsters for level 1-10 and the DM's book for level 11-20 (and maybe above) would have guidelines for this tier (maybe strongholds etc.) and monsters for level 11-20+.
I like that BECMI/Dragon Age approach.
-YRUSirius
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