I have been running a Pathfinder campaign since around August and am now up to running 2 separate games. With all the hub bub about all the supposed fixes it made, I have to say that so far I am less than impressed. Their are far too many new classes that take away from the core of the game. Players I understand want to play with the new toys, but without the core classes being covered the parties are ill equiped to handle the challenges they are facing. And these are not small parties either. They average 7-8 players now, but cannot get more than 1 person per game to play a martial class and there is not a rogue in either party at present. I know some of the other classes can cover a lot of the skills, but they will never be as good as it as a rogue and with DC's that will reach into the 30-40 range it is going to get really tough. That and with all the Eidelons, animal companions, etc there is no room for half of the party to act. Half of the players sit on their hands during combat while 2-3 people run 6 or more creatures and many of them are enlarged. Add to this mess the new firearms rules and everything gets turned on its head. I just have to ask the question, is this the game I really want to be playing? It was about this time we as a group stacked up all of our 4E books and put them on the shelf and went back to 3.5. At least with Pathfinder there might be some wiggle room to blend it somewhere in between to a place where we are all comfortable.