Pathfinder 1E Does pathfinder strike anyone as too gamey?

[billd91]

it's not an insult to suggest that when someone says I never did X" that maybe trying X may give them a different point of view...

It is when you put it in a condescending way, which I think you did.

well there is your problem. I know a lot of guys like you, and normally after playing one or two spell casters they change there tune.

I'd say that no, he doesn't have a problem and I'd also say he knows himself better than you know him or guys like him.

 

[HardcoreDandDGirl]

Odd that this has now become the fighter/caster thread, and the fighter/caster thread is about some completely incomprehensible tangent.

so this is the new way things is going on.

 

[Ahnehnois]

I call BS. A drug that is harmful, and illegal is not the same thing I also argue that a lot of the powers I love in book of nine swords that are not magical at all.

Its analogous enough. There are drawbacks to those powers, and benefits to those drugs (they are "performance-enhancing" after all; and all drugs have side effects).

no what I suggested is that someone should try another point of view... but somehow it has turned into people being even ruder then when I started.
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it's not an insult to suggest that when someone says I never did X" that maybe trying X may give them a different point of view...

The point you were making went a bit beyond that. And in any case, is an overreach.
Ninja'd a bit but, yeah, what [MENTION=3400]billd91[/MENTION] said.

 

[HardcoreDandDGirl]

I'd say that no, he doesn't have a problem and I'd also say he knows himself better than you know him or guys like him.

yea, because the problem is he isn't seeing the other point of view. the reson is because the two of them are coming back at it from different points of view, one likes casters from a mechanic point a view and dislikes the mechanic for martial, mean while still likes the concepts of martial as much as caster and finds it very limited.

 

[brvheart]

A lot of this is a generational thing. Michael, you and I have been playing since before a lot of these players were born. They have no concept of 'old school D&D'.

 

[Ahnehnois]

A lot of this is a generational thing. Michael, you and I have been playing since before a lot of these players were born. They have no concept of 'old school D&D'.

I'm probably the one who was born when you started playing though.

 

[HardcoreDandDGirl]

Its analogous enough. There are drawbacks to those powers, and benefits to those drugs (they are "performance-enhancing" after all; and all drugs have side effects).

so what is the suggestion that making a concentration check DC of there AC to deal +1d6 extra damage once per encounter, or attack 2 targets as the same action, or giving all allies a +4 to hit the person you just hit, is a 'draw back... or gaining a +1 (as long as you have at least a +1 int) to your ref save. or having d12 hp... yea that is a perfectly legal 1st level warblade... so yea no 'drawbacks' and no 'performance enhancings' all things a normal person could learn to do... so that is all wrong. try reading the book

 

[gamerprinter]

it's not an insult to suggest that when someone says I never did X" that maybe trying X may give them a different point of view...

It is when I've already clarified that I've been playing D&D for 35 years. The likelihood that I don't know how to run a spellcaster after 35 years of playing, is so unlikely that to suggest I actually try - is very much an insult, especially being a longtime GM. Don't think my players have indeed tried X, to suggest they haven't is quite plainly insulting.

 

[brvheart]

I don't want to say we are old, but we used to chisel our character sheets on stone tablets!

 

[HardcoreDandDGirl]

A lot of this is a generational thing. Michael, you and I have been playing since before a lot of these players were born. They have no concept of 'old school D&D'.

I started playing D&D when I was 8 years old when I had my first 'boyfriend' and he lived down the road from me. His father was playing D&D and ran a game for the two of us and another friend of his. It was second edition D&D... and I have been playing ever since. I had no problem with D&D 2nd, all my problems started in 3e...