D&D 5E I just don't buy the reasoning behind "damage on a miss".

[Weather Report]

I hope that if they keep the option, they move it to a feat instead of keeping it as a vital ability for someone wanting to wield a two-handed weapon. Right now any Ranger, Fighter, and Paladin with a two-handed weapon is basically forced to take it.

Yes, I am hoping it becomes a feat, being forced into damage-on-a-miss for fighters, paladins, and rangers that want to specialise in GWF is something to avoid.

 

[pemerton]

I'm interested to meet this hypothetical 4e players who say that fireball can't set anything on fire. Not just people who read 4e and asserted it without playing the game.

[MENTION=2067]Kamikaze Midget[/MENTION] plays the game this way, and then complains about the "wrought iron fence made of tigers".

 

[pemerton]

It's just a Fighter ability, not a Ranger or Paladin one.

I'm pretty sure they both get access to it at 2nd level in the current playtest.

If the designers choose not to take that path I hope they don't make it core and instead put it in some tactical module.

As Mistwell and I have both pointed out repeatedly upthread and on other similar threads, it is optional!

 

[pemerton]

Now I remember why I'm not around much anymore.

You need to visit the Fighter vs Wizards thread which is now nearing its 2000th post!

 

[Weather Report]

As Mistwell and I have both pointed out repeatedly upthread and on other similar threads, it is optional!

Not if you want GWF as an option, you're stuffed in the face with damage-on-a-miss.

 

[Paraxis]

Not if you want GWF as an option, you're stuffed in the face with damage-on-a-miss.

Sure nothing stopping your GWF from using the defensive or protection fighting style. In fact to be honest unless you plan on cheesing DoAM with a bunch of rider effects like a ranger can then +1 to AC or using your reaction to impose disadvantage on an attack are both probably better choices most of the time.

 

[Weather Report]

Sure nothing stopping your GWF from using the defensive or protection fighting style.

I don't want to specialise in either of those styles, I want the GWF deal.

+1/2 modifier damage sounds nice, will house-rule it that way until something better comes along (maybe never).

 

[Bluenose]

...or make it cost some kind of character resource so that it isn't too spamworthy.

Maybe make it an Encounter or Daily power. No-one would have problems with believability then, right?

 

[Weather Report]

Maybe make it an Encounter or Daily power. No-one would have problems with believability then, right?

If it's a "Martial Power", very probably.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I'll cop to that: I never bought any of the rationalizations for Martial Daily powers in 4Ed, so...

But if those still exist in 5Ed, "damage on a miss" would be more palatable as a Daily power, at least to me.