D&D 5E The new Dungeons & Dragons Starter Set - and online tools?

See, after the 24-page character sheets of 4e and almost required use of online tools to make characters, I am really. looking. foward to not having a bunch of laptops and tablets at the table.

I have no issue with a character builder or something existing, but it shouldn't be requisite. Also, if one exists, it should have functionality to enable and encourage house rules, also unlike the 4e version.

I agree totally, lack of house rule support, couple with the fact that you couldn't make a campaign file for your players with available classes and equipment realy soured me on the 4e character generation app.

The thing is, 5e characters are so simple, you can actually build one fairly simply just using pen and paper, I'm not sure that we need a chargen app.

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I'd love to see an app for phones and tablets that lets you make characters but which also lets the DM run combat from his app, communicate via bluetooth to the players' apps and track and run everything that way.

That's probably within the actual scope of what WotC can do, it's something everyone I know would instantly adopt, and seems like the kind of thing people would later wonder how they did without.
 

Allowing that the business purpose is to supplement the BB with a "How to build a character" tutorial, my best guess is they're creating an online tool which does exactly that. A video or simple app that walks people through character creation in a hand holding way--teaches them to fill out their character sheet rather than doing it for them.
 

I'm beginning to suspect (based on a few posts) that we might have a fully downloadable version of the rules that we can print out.

It's still very vague, but it's getting very intriguing.

Cheers!

That was my thought too. Except why then would you have to wait for the Player's Handbook to run a full campaign? Or is it just that the full rule set will be released at the same time as the Player's Handbook? but if that's true then character creation will be released earlier since it will have to coincide with the box set.

I still think I'm missing something.

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"Think of it like a set you could hand to a board gamer to make them into a new DM running D&D." - Mike Mearls

This is quite enlightening. I think most of us around here are still failing to see what is the purpose of the Starter Set: it's a starting point product for a whole group of people who haven't possibly played D&D/RPG before.

It is not a product for one player to learn everything about 5e. That's what I used to think it would be, i.e. a slimmed-down version of the PHB ("Basic" characters only) so that the owner could play at the same table with people owning a PHB, but it is not.

It is not a product to teach someone the whole experience of DMing a RPG.

It is not a product to play the game on a long term.

So in a sense, it really is a "teaser product", even tho a year-and-half ago Mearls specifically said they were not going to do a teaser, eventually they changed their plans.

In other words, this is really NOT a product for people like us. Many of us will buy it anyway, just because they cannot wait one more month for the PHB, or because they are collectors... but then don't complain if it's of limited use for us, you have been warned :D

This Starter Set is REALLY the product that should sit on a supermarket shelf or a toy shop, with a super-cheap price tag that screams "try me!" to people who DON'T already play RPGs. It is also the product that regular players should buy to their non-gamer friends and relatives for Xmas, to make them possibly interested in playing or DMing with you.

Then, we don't know what they have in mind for the "transitional step" between SS and PHB, but if it's an online tool it better be free. I don't see why someone who bought the SS would also spend money on a "second step", especially if it's a subscription, only to then buy the core books anyway. If it's a subscription that works as an alternative to the core books, then yes it makes sense (some people may prefer to spend a few $ per months, other to spend 150$ at once and forever), but not if it's another intermediate version of the game IMHO. If it's an Android/iOS/Windows app, then it's another matter, since usually those are very cheap, so it can afford to be again a teaser of the whole game.

When 4e came out, the character generator program let you make characters up to 3rd level for free. And it was pretty constantly updated.

3e originally came with a character generator going up to 20lv. It was never updated, but 3e was not supposed to be constantly updated (only revised once).
 

That was my thought too. Except why then would you have to wait for the Player's Handbook to run a full campaign? Or is it just that the full rule set will be released at the same time as the Player's Handbook? but if that's true then character creation will be released earlier since it will have to coincide with the box set.

I still think I'm missing something.

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I might add, that I as an advocate of the D&D game being made as accessible as possible to regular and casual gamers rather than just marketing to the hardcore fans am very excited about.

Casual almost certainly means something usable (or at least accessible) from a smart phone. If you have a free app/rules combo that anyone curios about D&D can download and make a character with, the starter set duplicating those rules would be useless.

Smart phones apps are, at this point in the US/UK/Canada, simply a more appealing and an easier route for newbies to get into D&D gaming than going into a store and having to buy a box set first. It certainly fills the instant gratification need that many people in first world countries crave.
 
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Just some wild, tongue-in-cheek speculation.

Well Mearls did say you could create a character without the starter or the PHB, ...

Within a week of its release someone will have retro-engineered the six characters from the Starter Set with the playtest rules and put it into an Excel sheet for character generation. MM statement has come true.

... and run a campaign without the MM or DMG, so, I don't know, maybe?

MM information in the adventures is complete; background material and DM related information, too. You can run a campaign (with these adventures) without resorting to MM and/or DMG.

(Insert any smiley which marks this message as not-so-earnest replay which shows what is possible with these "official" statements)
 

Just some wild, tongue-in-cheek speculation.



Within a week of its release someone will have retro-engineered the six characters from the Starter Set with the playtest rules and put it into an Excel sheet for character generation. MM statement has come true.



MM information in the adventures is complete; background material and DM related information, too. You can run a campaign (with these adventures) without resorting to MM and/or DMG.

(Insert any smiley which marks this message as not-so-earnest replay which shows what is possible with these "official" statements)

Mearls did say the adventures were not required. Just saying.

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