Okay, the tempest cleric has an ability that lets you blast somebody with lighting when you are hit. Note the text actually says the words "hits you with an attack". They then get an ability later on that whenever they deal lightning damage to a creature they can push that creature back 10 feet.
My question has two parts.
1) If you deal enough lightning damage to a creature to knock them out, do you still take damage from their attack?
2) If you blast them backwards 10 feet, do you take damage from the attack?
The shield spell also is also used on a "hit", as is the defensive duelist feat. Both of these show that a "hit" doesn't actually mean "when the weapon makes contact", but rather "when the attack roll indicates you would be struck". If a wizard can throw up a shield at the last moment, there is no reason to think that the cleric can't throw out some divine lightning retribution. On the other hand, both the shield spell and the defensive duelist feat specifically point out that they can turn the attack you reacted to into a miss, while the tempest clerics ability does not.
I'm leaning towards a general ruling of "if it doesn't say it negates the attack, then it doesn't", but I'm curious how other people would treat the situation, and why. Thoughts?
My question has two parts.
1) If you deal enough lightning damage to a creature to knock them out, do you still take damage from their attack?
2) If you blast them backwards 10 feet, do you take damage from the attack?
The shield spell also is also used on a "hit", as is the defensive duelist feat. Both of these show that a "hit" doesn't actually mean "when the weapon makes contact", but rather "when the attack roll indicates you would be struck". If a wizard can throw up a shield at the last moment, there is no reason to think that the cleric can't throw out some divine lightning retribution. On the other hand, both the shield spell and the defensive duelist feat specifically point out that they can turn the attack you reacted to into a miss, while the tempest clerics ability does not.
I'm leaning towards a general ruling of "if it doesn't say it negates the attack, then it doesn't", but I'm curious how other people would treat the situation, and why. Thoughts?