D&D 5E (2014) I believe the Greyhawk Campaign setting was a missed opportunity for Wizards of the Coast.

[Prism]

I imagine they haven't got the internal knowledge to really do Greyhawk justice whereas with Forgotten Realms they at least have all of the novel writers to help drive the world/stories. Best leave the Greyhawk stuff to the people who did living Greyhawk

 

[aramis erak]

I know people who still never touched 2nd edition who game in Greyhawk or Forgotten Realms, but I do keep hearing this. What is this old-school feel people talk about?

http://entertainment.lilithezine.com/Quick-Primer-for-Old-School-Gaming.html covers a good bit of it. (It appears to be a hypertext version of Matthew Finch's ebook.)

 

[SirAntoine]

http://entertainment.lilithezine.com/Quick-Primer-for-Old-School-Gaming.html covers a good bit of it. (It appears to be a hypertext version of Matthew Finch's ebook.)

I looked at the link, but how exactly do you see this in 5th Edition? Some of the article is also misleading, so it's not an all-about AD&D article really, just the point of view of the author of the article.

 

[GSHamster]

I completely disagree that Greyhawk is a good choice. Greyhawk has brand recognition only within the hardcore tabletop D&D community.

Meanwhile, Forgotten Realms has at least two media properties that reach a significantly wider audience:

1. Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter games for the video gamer audience
2. R.A. Salvatore's Drizzt novels for fantasy reader audience

Those two properties alone make using FR a much better choice, especially for attempting to get new players.

 

[thalmin]

I completely disagree that Greyhawk is a good choice. Greyhawk has brand recognition only within the hardcore tabletop D&D community.

Meanwhile, Forgotten Realms has at least two media properties that reach a significantly wider audience:

1. Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter games for the video gamer audience
2. R.A. Salvatore's Drizzt novels for fantasy reader audience

Those two properties alone make using FR a much better choice, especially for attempting to get new players.

Good point.

 

[SirAntoine]

Good point.

I was just curious if you ever saw Forgotten Realms' sales improve as a direct result of the popularity of the computer games and novels, under any edition?

Games Plus is a fantastic store, by the way.

 

[DEFCON 1]

Well if they continue to mess with the Realms like they are, they are going to lose all the Realms fans again who will just revert to using older products.

You say this as though WotC would have a problem with that. The whole reason they're releasing everything on dndclassics is precisely so this can happen for those who want it.

 

[aramis erak]

I looked at the link, but how exactly do you see this in 5th Edition? Some of the article is also misleading, so it's not an all-about AD&D article really, just the point of view of the author of the article.

The key points that apply to 5:
Rulings, not rules
simple mechanics, more description.
Go ahead and try, the worst that happens is it fails.

The Player Skill not Character skill doesn't apply nearly so well, but it's also delusionally ignoring that character skill has been around since 1975, and formal skill systems since 1976 (albeit for thieves only, in Supplement 1, Greyhawk), and is just as old school a way to deal with things... In practice, it was "few specialized skills, just attribute tests"...

5E does make a nod that way, tho', by making all skills just attribute tests, possibly adding proficiency. Which, by the way, is actually closer to how the advice in the early issues of the Dragon suggests dealing with things.

The Old School approach to actions:
A - is it something Anyone can do? If yes, say yes
B - is it beyond the character's possibility? If no, say no
C - assign a check against an attribute, and roll them dice.

You'll see that process (but not that particular wording) in a lot of the second generation of games. Games like Palladium, Starships & Spacemen, Tunnels and Trolls, RuneQuest...

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Well if they continue to mess with the Realms like they are, they are going to lose all the Realms fans again who will just revert to using older products.

What do you really mean here. They really have not done anything right now.

The realms are also not the Default setting. The D&D multiverse is the default setting.

Also you guys are super impatient right now. They have implied stuff with the Forgotten Realms and Greyhawk please just wait. It's been a little more then a month since the DMG came out and they even said they were going to take a break after that.

 

[Erik42]

Personally, I've always found Greyhawk to be a much more enjoyable setting than the Forgotten Realms. Strictly a matter of taste. However, I've played much more in Greyhawk than FR. My main exposure to FR was some of the books from that setting, which to me seemed somewhat juvenile and rather turned me off to playing in FR. I'm playing 5E coming right from 1E. I never got into the 2E-4E editions because I thought there was no real point in changing something that did not need changing. Unfortunately, after moving to a new city it's proving much easier to find 5E players. I'm not too upset about no 5E Greyhawk. The original is easily converted. I might not purchase it if they released it. I Personally, I think all of their prices these days are way too high and I'm not thrilled with the content. But I digress...